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D_town

D_town

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So, any AM members experienced with oral IGF (beta testers). The price seems very appeasing.
 
supersoldier said:
As always I nominate myself to beta test!!! :rasp:
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No fair, he always gets to beta test! just because has access to a lab to do bloodwork whenever he pleases.Invalid Link Removed
j/k:D
 
So, reading about there new oral IGF seems a lot like the NEXT, BIGGEST, BADDEST, TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH THAT WILL SHOCK AND REVOLUTIONIZE THE BODYBUILDING WORLD. I know, that was a little exaggeration, however it does get old hearing this. I've shelled out lots of money for products that were overhyped and would like to say that I've learned my lesson. At the same time, I've tried IGF-R3 before and really liked it. I've got PCT coming up in about a month and 30 days of oralIGF for around $230 seems like a blessing. I guess what I want is someone from IBE or someone that has used it to break it down, rather than just reading the advertisment. Or even one of the trusted bro's of AM to give it a :thumbsup:, Dr. D, Sledge, Bobo, etc, etc, etc... Real world results or research backing it up would be nice.
 
Yeah, time for the low-down behind the sales copy - I stand 100% ready to be convinced: if "everybody knows" that oral IGF doesn't work, what's changing the equation & makes Oratropin the dynamite new product we all want to see & use??
 
D_town said:
So, reading about there new oral IGF seems a lot like the NEXT, BIGGEST, BADDEST, TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH THAT WILL SHOCK AND REVOLUTIONIZE THE BODYBUILDING WORLD. I know, that was a little exaggeration, however it does get old hearing this. I've shelled out lots of money for products that were overhyped and would like to say that I've learned my lesson. At the same time, I've tried IGF-R3 before and really liked it. I've got PCT coming up in about a month and 30 days of oralIGF for around $230 seems like a blessing. I guess what I want is someone from IBE or someone that has used it to break it down, rather than just reading the advertisment. Or even one of the trusted bro's of AM to give it a :thumbsup:, Dr. D, Sledge, Bobo, etc, etc, etc... Real world results or research backing it up would be nice.
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Yeah, time for the low-down behind the sales copy - I stand 100% ready to be convinced: if "everybody knows" that oral IGF doesn't work, what's changing the equation & makes Oratropin the dynamite new product we all want to see & use??
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what they said
 
I've been kicking all this arounf in my head for a while now, and my questions amount to this:

Lots of things have been introduced to the public over the years as sure things & clear winners when, in fact, they were just good ideas that seemed like they ought to work; is oral delivery of IGF-1 via Oratropin a proven concept - or is it one that 'ought to work'?

My main concern is avoiding internal organ enlargement and other permanent body fsck-ups ("Anthony Robbins Syndrome") - how does Oratropin's design/delivery system/method of operation eliminate the risk of "GH gut" and other nightmares?

And how does Oratropin ensure that the IGF-1 get where it needs to go to do what IGF-1 is used for? This is in a sense, an extension of the previous question, and in both cases I'm looking for a reasonable description of Oratropin's interaction w/ the body (not digging for trade secrets or anything!).

I think it's great that you will be distributing sample kits to various people in the larger community: please tell us who, at what boards, will be receiving the samples, so we know where to go for serious evaluations of the product - and who's talkin' trash.

What is the shelf-life of Oratropin, at this stage? Does it need refrigeration? do you recommend daily dosing, or alternate days? What can users expect from either dosing schedule? Do you recommend a break after one kit? Two kits? Three?

That's enough for now.
 
I've ordered a few kits[last week] and will be logging a cycle on AM. I will be running it sans-AAS.
 
My main concern is avoiding internal organ enlargement and other permanent body fsck-ups ("Anthony Robbins Syndrome") - how does Oratropin's design/delivery system/method of operation eliminate the risk of "GH gut" and other nightmares?
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This has always detered me from using the stuff.

from IBE site said:
Our Oratropin-1™ formulation eliminates this risk with its unique and precise systematic release of IGF-1 into the bloodstream during the 24-48 hour time frame of absorption. When blood levels reach a point of saturation, administration temporarily stops and then resumes when levels reach safer concentrations.
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Sounds good. Sign me up. BTW, you guys have no affiliation to Ed Byrd, right? j/king
 
any chance to think it could be spread out to 30 days? Reason I ask is it says on their site 24-48hrs... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how people react to this...
 
IBE said:
Hello, the first 60 kits will be shipped out this week and 18 will go out tomorrow so there will be alot of feed back coming in the next weeks. we will be sending samples to alot of well known mods and admins.
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Oh how I wish you would throw some samples / betas towards bulknutrition mods:rolleyes: One can only wish.....

Honestly, I am very intrigued by this product. I am still recovering from some injuries/surgery and am looking to speed the process.
 
BodyWizard said:
Lots of things have been introduced to the public over the years as sure things & clear winners when, in fact, they were just good ideas that seemed like they ought to work; is oral delivery of IGF-1 via Oratropin a proven concept - or is it one that 'ought to work'?

My main concern is avoiding internal organ enlargement and other permanent body fsck-ups ("Anthony Robbins Syndrome") - how does Oratropin's design/delivery system/method of operation eliminate the risk of "GH gut" and other nightmares?

And how does Oratropin ensure that the IGF-1 get where it needs to go to do what IGF-1 is used for? This is in a sense, an extension of the previous question, and in both cases I'm looking for a reasonable description of Oratropin's interaction w/ the body (not digging for trade secrets or anything!).

What is the shelf-life of Oratropin, at this stage? Does it need refrigeration? do you recommend daily dosing, or alternate days? What can users expect from either dosing schedule? Do you recommend a break after one kit? Two kits? Three?
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Good questions :thumbsup: Also, I understand that this is a legal supp. So if I travel with them, I shouldn't end up in a Turkish prison watching movies about Gladiators....right?
 
SJA said:
Good questions :thumbsup: Also, I understand that this is a legal supp. So if I travel with them, I shouldn't end up in a Turkish prison watching movies about Gladiators....right?
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Of course not! They quit showing Gladiator movies in Turkish prisons years ago......

They've moved on to Broadway musicals with plenty of catchy showtunes :blink:
 
I am testing the Oratropin-1. Using it with Anavar for my cutter. Cycle is in my signature. I will let everyone know how great it is.
 
cool, nice to know...
what's your plan / dosing schedule?
have you received ANY information about the product (dosing, usage parameters, mode of action, cautions) other than the website's marketing text?
 
Just wanting to see if you received my email with shipping info and personal stats..... (anxiously awaiting a responce:type: )
IBE said:
I think we can do something like that. email us your shipping info.
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It would be nice if someone tested this by it self, instead of stacking it with some form of aas. To better quantify its potential. I dont know how to be suttle about this question, so I am just gonna come out and ask. Is this **** totally legal, or is it legal "for research purposes only" If a mod wants to delete this post after someone has answered this question, thats fine with me. I dont wanna get IBE in trouble.
 
The insert supplied w/ the Oratropin holds answers to some of the questions I've been asking, and clues (maybe) regarding other questions, so here's a look @ what we've got so far:


is oral delivery of IGF-1 via Oratropin a proven concept - or is it one that 'ought to work'?
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no info, but it seems to be an adaptation of an experimental insulin delivery system which (in turn) seems promising (assuming I'm reading the right entrails...)
how does Oratropin's design/delivery system/method of operation eliminate the risk of "GH gut" and other nightmares?
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Given the notes on administration, and the reference to lymphatic delivery to the bloodstream (see Invalid Link Removed ), I surmise that Oratropin moves through the mucous membranes into the lymph - but how that results in delivery to the portal vein beats me (I *do* have the flu, so mybe I'm just not seeing it); to get to the portal vein, it MUST go through the gut, AFAICT, so I suppose it could go BOTH routes: from the subclavian vein through the pulmonary artey & into the general blood supply, and whatever makes it into the gut and sruvives to reach the liver would theoretically accomplish....whaat?
...how does Oratropin ensure that the IGF-1 get where it needs to go...?
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no info
who, at what boards, will be receiving the samples?
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no info
What is the shelf-life of Oratropin, at this stage?
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"Oratropin-1 if sealed and stored away from direct sunlight and moisture has a shelf-life of 1-2 years."
Does it need refrigeration?
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"Best recommended storage is cold at 45 degrees F in refrigerator."
Do you recommend daily dosing, or alternate days?
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There are 2 references to daily dosing, and no discussion at all of other dosing regimens.
What can users expect from either dosing schedule?
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no info
Do you recommend a break after one kit? Two kits? Three?
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no info

Don't know if this contributes, but there it is.
 
Please check your PM's IBE...."You've got mail"!
 
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