Persistantly High Estrogen

JoeBrooklyn

JoeBrooklyn

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Hello all,

I haven't been on in a while. I hope everyone is doing well.

I have read many places that the traditional protocol for Anti-Estrogen if you use Adex is 0.5mg EOD for every 500mg of test. So I tried that and at the end of my cycle my estrogen was still too high.

On my next cycle I was doing 625mg once per week and 50mg of Anavar every day. This amounts to 975mg of test so I was doing 1.5mg of Adex everday and by the end of my cycle I had normal estrogen levels. Then I went on PCT. I was on 50mg of Clomid for 2 weeks and then 25mg for the next 4 weeks. When I got my bloods my estrogen was high again. So I surmised that next time when on PCT I would continue to do an anti-estrogen. But I just dont know what dosage. So that's my first question.

Next, I was off cycle for about 10-12 weeks and during that time I was doing 0.5mg of Adex to lower my estrogen. The levels did come down but they didn't reach optimally normal levels but were close. I then went back on the same cycle and I'm in my 4th week and my estrogen is off the charts. I got some letro and have been taking that for a few days but what can I do to 1-stay in normal range during cycle and 2-get down to normal range now that Im already high and on cycle?
 
I will start by saying that there is no set protocol to how "x" amount of test will only need "y" amount of ai's. Some guys are more prone to estrogen so they would need a higher dose of ai to stabilize things.

Next question is do you get pharma grade ai's or just research/ugl grade? That is important because if you don't get pharma you don't know if it is dosed correctly. And even if your source has been great for 10 years they are always at the mercy of their raw supplier so if they got screwed and never tested it then they wouldn't know and would assume it was good. Hell they may have known and still pushed their product to try and avoid losing money.

So when it comes to pct meds/ancillaries I would always spend the extra and get the real stuff so quality is not an issue.

I would also stop your gear and see what your bloods say. Make sure you have an ai and Nolva on hand in case sides pop up but ideally I would rather see what your baseline is when off of everything .
 
Also bro test and anavar are totally different! When you were on 625 mg of test and 350 of var you were on only 625 of test. Real var doesn't have any affect on estrogen so no need to add that to your total of test per week. However some places mix Winny and dbol together and sell it as var to try and fake the results of var. The dbol in this case would affect your estrogen. Just some things to think about
 
Viking23 said:
I will start by saying that there is no set protocol to how "x" amount of test will only need "y" amount of ai's. Some guys are more prone to estrogen so they would need a higher dose of ai to stabilize things.

Next question is do you get pharma grade ai's or just research/ugl grade? That is important because if you don't get pharma you don't know if it is dosed correctly. And even if your source has been great for 10 years they are always at the mercy of their raw supplier so if they got screwed and never tested it then they wouldn't know and would assume it was good. Hell they may have known and still pushed their product to try and avoid losing money.

So when it comes to pct meds/ancillaries I would always spend the extra and get the real stuff so quality is not an issue.

I would also stop your gear and see what your bloods say. Make sure you have an ai and Nolva on hand in case sides pop up but ideally I would rather see what your baseline is when off of everything .
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Thank you, all good points.
As for your question on my suppliers, they are underground and are supposed to be pharm grade but you never know. I don't mind spending the extra money but it's a matter of getting a source to begin with. It's not like I can just walk to the nearest drug store and get what I want. My wife is Thai and in Thailand you can get whatever you want, antibiotics, steroids, viagra and do you want to hear something funny? There are some Thai stores in the US that sell antiboitics over the counter but they will only sell to Thais. Now I'm wondering if they sell steroids too, LOL!!

My base is usually 502, Im 45 and my test is not what it use to be natural that's why I started doing steroids to begin with back when I was 39.
 
Viking23 said:
Also bro test and anavar are totally different! When you were on 625 mg of test and 350 of var you were on only 625 of test. Real var doesn't have any affect on estrogen so no need to add that to your total of test per week. However some places mix Winny and dbol together and sell it as var to try and fake the results of var. The dbol in this case would affect your estrogen. Just some things to think about
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Cool, thank you.
 
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