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Pct now or risk it?

deofasho

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I leave for 5weeks basic training in 40days. Currently running sust 250mg a week and deca 250 weekly. Its my 4th week on. Training hit a wall and I was busy packing and selling the house. So I decided to boost the test and try peptides. Both have rocketed my training everyday without injuries and im close to goals for passing physical test. Questions is, "stop deca now. Test prop the next 2 weeks. Then blast the hcg and clomid for the remainder of 2.5weeks I have until I leave"? Or do I keep crusing and find a way to get a serm shipped to me. Crytal light packs or something should be untouched and ill know logistics of shipping after a few weeks and if i get some liberty. Tyia.
 
I can't really give advice or comment much on the pct regiment/pharma aspect but you should have zero issue passing basic training PT's without being an enhanced athlete... my inclination would not be to use gear to get ready for something like that personally. How old are you?
 
Im old. And Its not just basic. Not disclosing tmi. Like I said I was having injuries and no time to train. My levels were low from years of cycles so thanks for your opinions but I felt it was necessary to get through the wall I hit, but organization I joined doesn't recognize hormonal imbalance or therapy. This is literally an anobolic forum and the advice is don't use anabolics?
 
Dustin07 said:
I can't really give advice or comment much on the pct regiment/pharma aspect but you should have zero issue passing basic training PT's without being an enhanced athlete... my inclination would not be to use gear to get ready for something like that personally. How old are you?
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Just to and some context, major calorie deficit with reta 2mg weekly so I didn't want to loose mass. Also hgh 2iu. Glow daily.
 
deofasho said:
Im old. And Its not just basic. Not disclosing tmi. Like I said I was having injuries and no time to train. My levels were low from years of cycles so thanks for your opinions but I felt it was necessary to get through the wall I hit, but organization I joined doesn't recognize hormonal imbalance or therapy. This is literally an anobolic forum and the advice is don't use anabolics?
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His advice was more like, don't use anabolics like a tard.

You need to be off deca almost 6 weeks before you start PCT, I know what the internet normally says and it's wrong, even being off long ester test for 2 weeks isn't long enough to start PCT, 3-4 weeks is more appropriate to let the test clear your system, and even after 3 to 4 weeks it's still not out. 5x the half-life of a drug is the elimination time. And IDK why anyone would use deca and test prop either. People who PCT or do not stay on TRT shouldn't use deca, or eq. Recovery time always is a issue.

Anywho,

If it was me, I would stop deca now, and I would take 1000mg of long ester testosterone the day I left, and I know that would take care of me for about a month or so. Id probably start to notice low t signs around weeks 4-5 and if I'm only gone for 5 weeks then that would be perfect. When I got back, I would take 500-1000 IU of HCG 3-4x week till I used up a 5000iu bttl and I'd start nolvadex or clomid or enclomphine (probably nolvadex @ 20-40mg and enclomphine @12.5mg)

Again, that's just what I would do.

Also,

"Your old", but going to 5 weeks of "basic training", and the "organization" don't blah, blah the story is ridiculous 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

But you have your answer now. I would not PCT. There's not enough time and I'm more comfortable knowing that the hormones stay in my system about that long. And that I am confident that they would not clear fast enough to run a successful post-cycle therapy
 
I'd rather be suppressed for a week at the end of basic then risk that I feel suppressed the entire time because my PCT wasn't enough. Making PCT the bigger risk in my opinion
 
deofasho said:
Im old. And Its not just basic. Not disclosing tmi. Like I said I was having injuries and no time to train. My levels were low from years of cycles so thanks for your opinions but I felt it was necessary to get through the wall I hit, but organization I joined doesn't recognize hormonal imbalance or therapy. This is literally an anobolic forum and the advice is don't use anabolics?
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He mentioned Basic because that’s what you said in your original post. As far as PCT, just realize Deca stays in your system a few weeks after stopping, so stopping and doing a PCT even only a week later won’t work as good as waiting a few weeks before starting a serm for PCT. To be honest not sure what your goal was, but 40 days is probably pushing it too close if you were wanting your system to be recovered from a cycle. And not sure of your training that you have to do if it isn’t basic, but if you need endurance Deca isn’t usually the best choice for that, EQ is.
 
Smont said:
His advice was more like, don't use anabolics like a tard.

You need to be off deca almost 6 weeks before you start PCT, I know what the internet normally says and it's wrong, even being off long ester test for 2 weeks isn't long enough to start PCT, 3-4 weeks is more appropriate to let the test clear your system, and even after 3 to 4 weeks it's still not out. 5x the half-life of a drug is the elimination time. And IDK why anyone would use deca and test prop either. People who PCT or do not stay on TRT shouldn't use deca, or eq. Recovery time always is a issue.

Anywho,

If it was me, I would stop deca now, and I would take 1000mg of long ester testosterone the day I left, and I know that would take care of me for about a month or so. Id probably start to notice low t signs around weeks 4-5 and if I'm only gone for 5 weeks then that would be perfect. When I got back, I would take 500-1000 IU of HCG 3-4x week till I used up a 5000iu bttl and I'd start nolvadex or clomid or enclomphine (probably nolvadex @ 20-40mg and enclomphine @12.5mg)

Again, that's just what I would do.

Also,

"Your old", but going to 5 weeks of "basic training", and the "organization" don't blah, blah the story is ridiculous 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

But you have your answer now. I would not PCT. There's not enough time and I'm more comfortable knowing that the hormones stay in my system about that long. And that I am confident that they would not clear fast enough to run a successful post-cycle therapy
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Ha, I was typing as you sent this.😂
 
deofasho said:
Im old. And Its not just basic. Not disclosing tmi. Like I said I was having injuries and no time to train. My levels were low from years of cycles so thanks for your opinions but I felt it was necessary to get through the wall I hit, but organization I joined doesn't recognize hormonal imbalance or therapy. This is literally an anobolic forum and the advice is don't use anabolics?
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I didn't say don't use anabolics, with the limited information I had I suggested anabolics for basic training is overkill.

You said you were going to basic and were almost ready to pass PT. Under no circumstances would I consider it acceptable for a presumably young person to need pharma enhancement to pass something as simple as basic. High school wrestling is literally harder. Thats why I asked how old you are, since the majority of enlisted going to Basic are 18-24. I know lots of guys use gear once they're in, especially if they're going hardcore delta, SF, seals, etc but they also have a lot more flexibility in their day to day life to do things like this.


Smont said:
His advice was more like, don't use anabolics like a tard.
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Smont said:
I'd rather be suppressed for a week at the end of basic then risk that I feel suppressed the entire time because my PCT wasn't enough. Making PCT the bigger risk in my opinion
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I agree. Just needed some reassurance. This new journey has me overwhelmed and unsure of myself. My career field holds high standards and I've always walked that fine line. Higher authorities keep me on egg shells but im learning if you going to be dumb then you gotta be tough.
 
Dustin07 said:
I didn't say don't use anabolics, with the limited information I had I suggested anabolics for basic training is overkill.

You said you were going to basic and were almost ready to pass PT. Under no circumstances would I consider it acceptable for a presumably young person to need pharma enhancement to pass something as simple as basic. High school wrestling is literally harder. Thats why I asked how old you are, since the majority of enlisted going to Basic are 18-24. I know lots of guys use gear once they're in, especially if they're going hardcore delta, SF, seals, etc but they also have a lot more flexibility in their day to day life to do things like this.




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Dustin thanks for looking out for the beginners, but i figured this was a vetted thread and not spammed with noobs like read it is. My goal was never to use gear to pass a pft. Rather, im on trt4life, late 30's. Numerous cycles over the last 6 years. I had sust/deca on hand and added it. A year ago, i Originally pct'd during medical screening so my blood would be good because the orals had them trashed. Which worked. Hopped back on trt but realized ill be get bloods drawn again when I report for duty so for that reason only was I even possibly considering pct again before I leave.
 
Considering how much forethought and prep you have going into this I have no doubt you'll succeed, but yeah it's not uncommon to see real young kids dinkin' around with anabolics when they still have an opportunity to put on another 30lbs+ naturally.
 
Dustin07 said:
I didn't say don't use anabolics, with the limited information I had I suggested anabolics for basic training is overkill.

You said you were going to basic and were almost ready to pass PT. Under no circumstances would I consider it acceptable for a presumably young person to need pharma enhancement to pass something as simple as basic. High school wrestling is literally harder. Thats why I asked how old you are, since the majority of enlisted going to Basic are 18-24. I know lots of guys use gear once they're in, especially if they're going hardcore delta, SF, seals, etc but they also have a lot more flexibility in their day to day life to do things like this.




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Dustin thanks for looking out for the beginners, but i figured this was a vetted thread and not spammed with noobs like read it is. My goal was never to use gear to pass a pft. Rather, im on trt4life, late 30's. Numerous cycles over the last 6 years. I had sust/deca on hand and added it. A year ago, i Originally pct'd during medical screening so my blood would be good because the orals had them trashed. Which worked. Hopped back on trt but realized ill be get bloods drawn again when I report
gphagan1 said:
He mentioned Basic because that’s what you said in your original post. As far as PCT, just realize Deca stays in your system a few weeks after stopping, so stopping and doing a PCT even only a week later won’t work as good as waiting a few weeks before starting a serm for PCT. To be honest not sure what your goal was, but 40 days is probably pushing it too close if you were wanting your system to be recovered from a cycle. And not sure of your training that you have to do if it isn’t basic, but if you need endurance Deca isn’t usually the best choice for that, EQ is.
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so for that reason only was I even possibly considering pct again before I leave.
gphagan1 said:
He mentioned Basic because that’s what you said in your original post. As far as PCT, just realize Deca stays in your system a few weeks after stopping, so stopping and doing a PCT even only a week later won’t work as good as waiting a few weeks before starting a serm for PCT. To be honest not sure what your goal was, but 40 days is probably pushing it too close if you were wanting your system to be recovered from a cycle. And not sure of your training that you have to do if it isn’t basic, but if you need endurance Deca isn’t usually the best choice for that, EQ is.
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CorpKiller said:
Good luck
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Yes sir and thank you for you for serving our country brother.
 
deofasho said:
Im dialed in now, feeling good. Couple of states north of you brother.
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My brother and childhood best friend both spent time at Benning before one went to San Antonio for AIT and the other to Bragg for more intense stuff. You guys sure get to see some great areas of the country.
 
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