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SurfMaluf

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27 200 6'3 Taking Sarm cycle which will consist of 30 mg osta, 30 mg S4, 15 mg LGD, and 500 mg Epi Andro every day. Will be running for around 6 weeks.
My question is should i take nolva or clomid for pct and what dosage should i run it at?
Thank you
 
Yes, nolva at 20 a day for 2 weeks and then 10mg for another 2 weeks

Clomid at 50mg a day for 2 weeks and then 25mg clomid a day 2 more weeks
 
would one be more effective over the other? is there on with less side effects? thank you sorry for so many questions
 
Clomid is slightly less potent than Nolva. Nolva helps with 2 things. Controls estrogen where it's required and acts as estrogen in certain parts of the body where it's needed. It is the most effective.
 
jtmass said:
Clomid is slightly less potent than Nolva. Nolva helps with 2 things. Controls estrogen where it's required and acts as estrogen in certain parts of the body where it's needed. It is the most effective.
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What?
 
jtmass said:
Read up, my man. This is not my opinion.
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Nothing you said made a bit of sense. Nolva acts as estrogen? You mean it occupies the estrogen receptors? How does nolva control estrogen? It actually elevates circulating estrogen in the body. Whether nolva or clomid is better for PCT is completely an opinion, definitely not fact. Maybe you should read up a little more before giving advice to people on an open forum.
 
yates84 said:
Nothing you said made a bit of sense. Nolva acts as estrogen? You mean it occupies the estrogen receptors? How does nolva control estrogen? It actually elevates circulating estrogen in the body. Whether nolva or clomid is better for PCT is completely an opinion, definitely not fact. Maybe you should read up a little more before giving advice to people on an open forum.
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This is my reading. Like I said, not my opinion.

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jtmass said:
This is my reading. Like I said, not my opinion.

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Lulz so some other guys opinion you just accept as fact?
 
I'd check out the above link. That will have all the info you need for pct concerns.
 
yates84 said:
Hey look, I wrote an article too. Maybe you can read multiple sources of information and come to your own conclusions instead of just regurgitating what someone else says.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/276620-post-cycle-therapy.html
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I can keep posting links of what Nolva does man. So, it's not just some one's opinion. It's a fact. So, before you criticise someone, just read again. There are multiple articles on what I just mentioned.
 
jtmass said:
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I can keep posting links of what Nolva does man. So, it's not just some one's opinion. It's a fact. So, before you criticise someone, just read again. There are multiple articles on what I just mentioned.
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You definitely don't know it's specific actions by your first statement I quoted. Keep reading bro, you will get it right one day hopefully.
 
yates84 said:
You definitely don't know it's specific actions by your first statement I quoted. Keep reading bro, you will get it right one day hopefully.
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Hey. If it's okay with you, I'd like to know what was wrong in my understanding. I read and hear from people I know. Doesn't mean that I am right and you're wrong.
 
jtmass said:
Hey. If it's okay with you, I'd like to know what was wrong in my understanding. I read and hear from people I know. Doesn't mean that I am right and you're wrong.
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Nolva and other serms do act as a synthetic estrogen by actually competing with estrogen at the receptors. Nolva has a high affinity for estrogen receptors specifically in breast tissue which is why it was developed as a drug to fight breast cancer. For us, this means nolva can basically stop steroid induced gynocomastia pretty quickly and even help reverse it if nolva is used properly. Clomid has the same estrogen receptor affinity but for receptors all over the body. Imo clomid is better for PCT where nolva is better used as an on cycle ancillary but that is opinion and is very debatable. Serms do not control estrogen at all, their actions actually increase circulating estrogen by occupying your estrogen receptors and giving your endogenous estrogen nowhere to attach and basically just floats around. This is how rebound gyno happens and why proper ai use is so important. I go into a lot of detail in that link I provided about a lot of different actions in PCT of different drugs and is worth your time to read.
 
yates84 said:
Nolva and other serms do act as a synthetic estrogen by actually competing with estrogen at the receptors. Nolva has a high affinity for estrogen receptors specifically in breast tissue which is why it was developed as a drug to fight breast cancer. For us, this means nolva can basically stop steroid induced gynocomastia pretty quickly and even help reverse it if nolva is used properly. Clomid has the same estrogen receptor affinity but for receptors all over the body. Imo clomid is better for PCT where nolva is better used as an on cycle ancillary but that is opinion and is very debatable. Serms do not control estrogen at all, their actions actually increase circulating estrogen by occupying your estrogen receptors and giving your endogenous estrogen nowhere to attach and basically just floats around. This is how rebound gyno happens and why proper ai use is so important. I go into a lot of detail in that link I provided about a lot of different actions in PCT of different drugs and is worth your time to read.
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Will definitely give a read. Thanks man. But, male body has estrogen as well. Not just Test. So, isn't it important to have Nolva as your PCT to normalise estrogen and test in our body?
 
jtmass said:
Will definitely give a read. Thanks man. But, male body has estrogen as well. Not just Test. So, isn't it important to have Nolva as your PCT to normalise estrogen and test in our body?
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Yes, we have estrogen as males. Testosterone interacts with the aromatase enzyme which turns the testosterone into estrogen. Through this action our body manages our testosterone levels via the hpta. Once again, nolva does nothing to lower estrogen, this can only be done via an aromatase inhibitor like exemestane or arimidex. Estrogen levels will work themselves out and if they don't then you use an ai.
 
yates84 said:
Yes, we have estrogen as males. Testosterone interacts with the aromatase enzyme which turns the testosterone into estrogen. Through this action our body manages our testosterone levels via the hpta. Once again, nolva does nothing to lower estrogen, this can only be done via an aromatase inhibitor like exemestane or arimidex. Estrogen levels will work themselves out and if they don't then you use an ai.
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Nolva or Clomid acts as a blocker and doesn't do anything to lower estrogen. You can keep an Ai in case estrogen levels kicks in high. That's my understanding.
 
jtmass said:
Nolva or Clomid acts as a blocker and doesn't do anything to lower estrogen. You can keep an Ai in case estrogen levels kicks in high. That's my understanding.
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Basically, yes.
 
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