bassgod272
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exactly bro, just think WWJJD - what would jamie jasta do?
KEEP IT HARDFVCKINCORE!!! :bruce2:
p-plex/M-drol w/ Trena log-Subscribe this baby!
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exactly bro, just think WWJJD - what would jamie jasta do?
KEEP IT HARDFVCKINCORE!!! :bruce2:
Papa T
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I am new to this site, and I've just finished reading this thread or whatevever it's called. I have been lucky enough to try many different cycles of the real goods and lately a few different designer products. I just wanted to suggest that all of you guys trying these cycles eat as much as you can unless you're not interested in putting any size on. I believe that these "clean" diets are minimizing your gains. A little of my background: 27 years old, 6'1, my weight on one scale was 205 and 212 on another(need to see a Dr.), still an advanced personal trainer though not my occupation, graduated high school at this height and 141lbs, true hard gainer... I'm interested in this thread b/c my M Drol will arrive any day now. Just finished PCT for Epidrol, and it was great other than getting very sick partly through the cycle. I'll probably start the M drol sometime this week. I'll continue to post on here to keep this thread alive. How do you put your pictures on the Avatar once you load them? Thanks and good luck to all of you trying to accomplish your goals!!!
Brian5225
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Well hey Papa T, When did you finish PCT? I would wait for a few weeks after PCT for the body to become well regulated before starting another cycle, especially something as strong as M-Drol. You'll love the M-Drol (I think. Probably depends on how the sides treat you). Good luck bro, keep up the hard work!
On a sidenote, got a new PR on squats today, did 315 and could have gone further, but I was so sore and taxed that I decided not to. Yeah, I know my squats are really low, but I never really work my legs as much as my upper body. That's what my workouts with the PL will do! But felt good, and still do!
On a sidenote, got a new PR on squats today, did 315 and could have gone further, but I was so sore and taxed that I decided not to. Yeah, I know my squats are really low, but I never really work my legs as much as my upper body. That's what my workouts with the PL will do! But felt good, and still do!
snookl187
Member
Great log Brian! This has been one of my favs. Smart move by stopping the cycle short. Consistent pale stools is not good and a sure sign that your liver is not happy. Thanks for putting your health on the line and sharing with us. Congrats on your well deserved progress and good luck with your PCT. Reps to you my friend.:squat:
Papa T
New member
It won't be easy when the m drol comes in, but I am sure that you're right. My hormones seem kinda messed up right now anyway.
Legs can really suck if you're tall, lean and go all the way down into the bucket.
I'll keep an eye on this thread and post when I start.
bassgod272
Well-known member
diesel test hardcore will help out in that department. it'll pass as your natty test levels increase. i felt the same way for about the first 4-5 days, then my mood improved from there on. now my libido is higher than when i'm off cycle and just going natty
bassgod272
Well-known member
form will DEF kick up the libido! :hammer: IMO i'd run it AFTER PCT to prevent an estrogen rebound that SD is notorious for. taper the dose up for 2 weeks, then back down for the last 2 weeks. mood will go thru the roof, strength will increase, you'll get a lil leaner, AND you may even gain a few more pounds. formestane is actually a weak steroid. it used to be made by VPX as an injectable. the nomenclature is an androstenedione, not diol, but dione. that's why it is weak, but it will still jack up your natty test levels and lower estro
Brian5225
Active member
Gotta say, the mood has been all over today. I'll be excited for practically no reason, then just happy, then depressed and wanna cry, then just quiet, reserved and almost no emotion whatsoever. It really sucks. I've been an @ss to people a couple times today, then wanna cry about it within a few minutes. Hell I sure hope my hormones get balanced soon...
bassgod272
Well-known member
damn bro, what are you running as your PCT again? i forgot, lol.
bassgod272
Well-known member
hm that's weird. i just felt like crap and had no libido. i also was a d!ck to some people, but never wanted to cry or had sparatic mood swings. don't worry though bro, it'll pass in a few days to 1 week.
Brian5225
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Yeah, weight this morning was 203 and I know some of it had to be water, food, and whatnot because my appetite was out of the norm yesterday. Liking the way I look, hating the way I feel lol. I'll be running a 2-3 weeker of m1t as my next cycle lol. I sure put my poor body through a lot lol. Maybe I should be nice to it and do a slight cut or something. Naw, like the size:twisted:
Brian5225
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Had a decent workout today. Problem is, I cramped terrible during squats. I forgot to mention the fact that I've been cramping terribly over the last 3 days. I'll increase water and potassium and see if that helps.
I am about 3 different types of pissed right now. I have currently been inducted into a powerlifting team. One of the members I have known basically my whole life, and he thinks he knows everything. I've been trying to educate him on steroids, but he's bigger than I am so he thinks he knows more. He just STARTED P-Plex at 60 fvckin mg a day. No research into SERMS or PCT, no asking me to get it for him, no nothing. No cycle preparations and no strategy. No milk thistle, no SERM, FVCKING NOTHING! It wouldn't piss me off so much if it didn't effect the ENTIRE TEAM. He's gonna end up with gyno, shrunken nuts, a huge heart (I told him not to do cardio on phera, but he won't listen. He says it's no big deal. fvckin idiot)no testosterone, losing his hair, dropping lifts, and he'll be moody as a b!tch. Sorry bro's I had to vent. I'm trying to talk some sense into him but he just won't listen.
I am about 3 different types of pissed right now. I have currently been inducted into a powerlifting team. One of the members I have known basically my whole life, and he thinks he knows everything. I've been trying to educate him on steroids, but he's bigger than I am so he thinks he knows more. He just STARTED P-Plex at 60 fvckin mg a day. No research into SERMS or PCT, no asking me to get it for him, no nothing. No cycle preparations and no strategy. No milk thistle, no SERM, FVCKING NOTHING! It wouldn't piss me off so much if it didn't effect the ENTIRE TEAM. He's gonna end up with gyno, shrunken nuts, a huge heart (I told him not to do cardio on phera, but he won't listen. He says it's no big deal. fvckin idiot)no testosterone, losing his hair, dropping lifts, and he'll be moody as a b!tch. Sorry bro's I had to vent. I'm trying to talk some sense into him but he just won't listen.
Ziquor
Well-known member
Awesome cycle dude. I'd be patient on the PCT though takes a few days for most to feel better. I'd refrain for Form during PCT since it's suppressive/steroidal. EXCELLENT to run alone or along side something but IMO PCT's not a good place for Form. Like using Epi for PCT from Superdol.
Brian5225
Active member
OOO! More from CEL!! Got me excited!
Update: Weight this morning was 204.4. Mood is much better now, feel like I've evenned out a bit. Testes are coming back, not back fully but slowly they're on their way. Shedding slightly, but my hair line isn't going back at all. Feelin much better now boys! Skin is also more oily so acne has kicked up, started the oxy again.
Update: Weight this morning was 204.4. Mood is much better now, feel like I've evenned out a bit. Testes are coming back, not back fully but slowly they're on their way. Shedding slightly, but my hair line isn't going back at all. Feelin much better now boys! Skin is also more oily so acne has kicked up, started the oxy again.
Ziquor
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Awesome news - testes return's a good feeling!
Brian5225
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Most definately. It's kick to the pride when your balls shrink haha.
Brian5225
Active member
Update: Weight this morning 202.1.
Little confused. Woke up yesterday and I was 3 pounds lighter, and have stayed at 202 since yesterday. And somehow the scale says my bf increased a percent and a half. I won't worry too much about it but it sucks. Mood is much more consistent. Not shedding so much anymore, but acne is still increased quite a bit. I just hope my strength stays with me.
Little confused. Woke up yesterday and I was 3 pounds lighter, and have stayed at 202 since yesterday. And somehow the scale says my bf increased a percent and a half. I won't worry too much about it but it sucks. Mood is much more consistent. Not shedding so much anymore, but acne is still increased quite a bit. I just hope my strength stays with me.
bassgod272
Well-known member
you'll lose a little bit of strength, but not too much. keep the cals high, eat clean, train hard, rest well, and you'll be straight. :hammer: this is what has been working for me. and say fvck the scale, just go by the mirror. acne will level off and get better towards the end of PCT. right now, you're body is trying desperately to return its hormones back to normal, hence the acne. natty test is increasing and will continue to do so. take a shower after you lift, in the morning, and before bed. this helps.
Brian5225
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Thanks for the tips bro:thumbsup: I've been showering at least twice a day and it's still pretty bad, but hey, it was worth it eh? And I look just fine in the mirror,and I can tell by the way my stomach looks that there's no way my bf is as high as the scale says. It says 18.5 but I have vertical separation on my abs (never been able to get horizontal), and I look somewhat dry. Gotta say it was worth it in retrospect though. Just hope my liver doesn't hate me too much though:afro:
bassgod272
Well-known member
18.5!?!? get on a treadmill!! :lol: jk man, that can't be right. get some calipers and see what they read. your liver most okely DOES hate you, lol. but it will recover just fine. be sure not to drink or anything though, as i'm sure you already know.
AlexParty
Yari Ka Daw!
When your done your pct take a week break from everything, eat what you want(don't go crazy), don't go to the gym, just take it easy. Then start a fat loss. Buy a really good pair of running shoes(I bought a pair for 200 bucks) and go running every morning on an empty stomach for 40 minutes. Try and get to at least 12% body fat.
Brian5225
Active member
I'm most likely between 14-15% right now. If I could get to 12% without going too catabolic I would feel pretty fair about it. But I'm going to try and maintain my weight for a couple months because I have a powerlifting comp in august. Don't wanna get weak. Although I do have to get down to 198 to compete in the weight bracket I want.
Brian5225
Active member
What I'll do is just try my best to maintain a good clean diet and maybe lose a little weight between now and august, but I don't want to compromise strength. It'l be probably september that I'll run clen, trx (t2), and carb cycle to get my bf down. I'm thinking of running a light designer like halo with it just to help preserve mass.
bassgod272
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bassgod272
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are you serious? lol. LG Methyl Masterdrol V2. it converts to stanolone(semi-synthetic DHT) libido skyrockets, strength increases while cutting carbs, aggression during workouts is insane, and it drops bf
bassgod272
Well-known member
yea i'll probably never try the M-1D or Formadrol Extreme, but MMV2 has had rave reviews from anyone who's tried it. i start mine along with all my other supps for my cut this Friday. :woohoo: i'll also be using their IGH-1, but it's only a sample bottle for like a 1 week supply or something :sad:
Ziquor
Well-known member
Scale BF levels are always higher than other methods for me. When I test with calipers I'll get about 13% then on a scale it's always about 3-4% higher for some reason.
Brian5225
Active member
Yeah, I noticed that at the beginning of my bulk. I ordered some clen by the way for anti-catabolic effects. I'm still going to keep my cals high though, I don't want to lose any of this mass until my body has gotten accustomed to it.
Brian5225
Active member
Just thought I would give an update guys!
Weight this morning was 202.2. Great mood today, feeling much better than the beginning of PCT. Oh, another thing, had a personal trainer check my bf by caliper, and it's 14.7, which is roughly what it was at the beginning of the cycle
Weight this morning was 202.2. Great mood today, feeling much better than the beginning of PCT. Oh, another thing, had a personal trainer check my bf by caliper, and it's 14.7, which is roughly what it was at the beginning of the cycle
Ziquor
Well-known member
Just thought I would give an update guys!
Weight this morning was 202.2. Great mood today, feeling much better than the beginning of PCT. Oh, another thing, had a personal trainer check my bf by caliper, and it's 14.7, which is roughly what it was at the beginning of the cycle
Great news - you gained a good bit of lean muscle. Good job B!
