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OxyElite Pro tainted-Lets face the facts.

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I just started a cycle of it last week and changed my diet a bit and eating habbits. I have to say im down 2lbs..in 5 days. Not bad. I love it so far and vasculinty is crazy from using it :)
 
hardknock said:
Vick's still makes a profit because, well, it still works better tbh. I can down 3 caps full of the competing brand and still not get the effects of 1 cap of Vicks. It says the same thing, however, doesn't affect me the same nearly. Makes me wonder what is really in Vicks, lol.

Also, Vicks has had a head start in that category. It's hard to catch a marathon runner from behind.
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i agree-i have triked copying some of my favorite products with bulks, and mine never work as well. supplement companies had better realize that sooner or later the fda is going to eliminate prop blends-wouldn't it be great marketing to be able to say you did it voluntarily????
 
thebigt said:
i agree-i have triked copying some of my favorite products with bulks, and mine never work as well.
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Do you think it's also due to the quality of the ingredients you use versus the company's? Or maybe it's because there more in the product than the label reveals. :ntome:
 
I have lost almost 12lbs of fat (Mostly abdominal) in a month using only OEP. I have not worked out in that time. It works!!!!!!
 
So what's the difference between this and Recreate? Stim vs. non-stim? Is that all?

Always liked Recreate as i'm pretty sensitive to stims. Does a wonder for appetite suppression for me.
 
The_Reverend said:
Do you think it's also due to the quality of the ingredients you use versus the company's? Or maybe it's because there more in the product than the label reveals. :ntome:
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if i had to guess i would say that supp companies keep the best sources exclusive-this is the reason i say usplabs could do away with prop blends. they are always bragging about the high quality and rarity of their ingredients-so why not list them and dare other companies to match the quality and effectiveness of their finished products?????


i seriously believe that prop blends give a black eye to the entire supplement market-if usplabs is really serious about giving the customer what they want then i think we are in agreement that no one likes prop blends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bigok:
 
thebigt said:
if i had to guess i would say that supp companies keep the best sources exclusive
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Haha! No, they're not as exclusive as you may think. You just have to know who to talk with. As far as Jacob's connection in India: that may be a bit more hard to find (which is good for him ;))


bigt said:
i seriously believe that prop blends give a black eye to the entire supplement market-if usplabs is really serious about giving the customer what they want then i think we are in agreement that no one likes prop blends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bigok:
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Hell, not too many companies DO NOT have Prop blends. From USP Labs, to Axis Labs; only a small market for direct listing (under body building/enhancement supplements). At least USP Labs will go above and beyond the call to help someone out with questions, though.
 
This thread makes me like my OEP even more. Generally, the greatest successes have the most haters. I wasn't aware my OEP was as effective as it apparently is, good.
 
matthew76 said:
Haha! No, they're not as exclusive as you may think. You just have to know who to talk with. As far as Jacob's connection in India: that may be a bit more hard to find (which is good for him ;))



Hell, not too many companies DO NOT have Prop blends. From USP Labs, to Axis Labs; only a small market for direct listing (under body building/enhancement supplements). At least USP Labs will go above and beyond the call to help someone out with questions, though.
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read what i wrote-supplement companies are the only companies that use prop blends, i was in no way singling out usplabs.

you would have a hard time finding a product other than bodybuilding supplents that use prop blends-this is why i say that prop blends give the entire industry a bad name.
 
thebigt said:
read what i wrote-supplement companies are the only companies that use prop blends, i was in no way singling out usplabs.

you would have a hard time finding a product other than bodybuilding supplents that use prop blends-this is why i say that prop blends give the entire industry a bad name.
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Excellent point.
 
DeerDeer said:
Excellent point.
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thanks deerdeer-but i want to remind everyone that i am not on a witch hunt against usplabs. i am very fond of many of usp's products particularly the one mentioned in this thread. everyone who knows me understands that it is prop blends in general i am against, not usplabs. with that said, i feel this is a real opportunity for usplabs to go to the forefront and list ingredients in correct amounts-the goodwill that would be created would almost certainly assure equal or most likely better sales, imho.
 
thebigt said:
thanks deerdeer-but i want to remind everyone that i am not on a witch hunt against usplabs. i am very fond of many of usp's products particularly the one mentioned in this thread. everyone who knows me understands that it is prop blends in general i am against, not usplabs. with that said, i feel this is a real opportunity for usplabs to go to the forefront and list ingredients in correct amounts-the goodwill that would be created would almost certainly assure equal or most likely better sales, imho.
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I'd love to see the day come when we finally know how much of everything we put in our bodies, but it might be a long time before that day comes.
 
Other than SlimX the original (RIP), best thermo/smooth stim on the planet. Ive tried them all.
 
Stacked with alpha T2 and it did nothing for me except completely suppress libido (I was pissing out semen due to complete lack of sex drive). I do admit to being lazy with my cardio though. But I did diet very strictly.
 
WOW man. No kidding? Are you a stim junkie? I am and this combo was SICK for me.
 
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