oxandrolone

Shorinryu

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Hi guys,



After having read tons of information about oxandrolone on medline and forum, I have decided to use it as my first ever cycle.



The choice has been influenced by the very low virilization effects that this hormone has; I have a problem of hair loss and I found out that this hormone is the safest bet

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I am 35 years old, 5,7 (height) and 187 pounds (good muscles mass); I would like to increase slowly my weight to 190 or more and I like the effect that anavar has on the muscle (Hard look, retain what u gain, low toxicity) etc.



Now I read that at low doses the hormone should not shu down the production of testo + do not aromatise and change in DHT; ( I read of people that did a cycle of 4 weeks about 40 mg and without any pct after 2 weeks did not have problems at all).



Anyway this is my plan, I would like to buy anavar British dragon start with 10 mg daily (divided in 2 daily). I want to start from the safe side and see how my body react. I read that the hormone start to produce effect from 7,5 mg up for 4-5 weeks. I will continue use CEE and train hard, good diet etc..



Then even if the dose is very low I will run some pct but I want to use something very mild (chrysin at 2 grams – I usually respond well to this at 1 gram; and ZMA 3 caps).



I know that there are better hormones out there (but I am concerned about hairloss). What do u think? I do not want to be huge (I teach full contact, o I like just more a hard look and reach 190…



Thanks



PS



Very good forum



 
Well, its' good that you did/are doing your research, but unfortunatley it's very outdated. I will say that what you have planned, you will be very dissapointed. 10mg ED isn't going to do a single thing for you. Even up to 40mg ED, var will still exert hardly any effects. Even for a first cycle. Var IMO is a total waste of cash, especially since it;s so damn expensive.

Chrysin isn't an alternative to SERMS for PCT. Nelson Montanna tried to tell it like it is back in the day with this garbage...it's totally false....you still will need to either run nolva or clomid.

Also, any kind of hormonal compound is going to shutdown the HPTA. There is no such animal as taking AAS and not having your body stop producing natural test. Even if it be minimal, it will still happen. It seems non-aromatizing compounds will shut you down less when compared, but still the fact remains...thats the problem with dated info.

If I were you, I'd pick something else for a first cycle...try test @ 250-500mg/week. DHT, bloat, hairloss will not be much of concern at this low a dose...
 
Well if he isn't looking to put on much and wants this to be easy on him too, he could get himself some superdrol. Stuff is completely legal. Most likely will put on those 5-10lbs in the 4 weeks he is looking at, not bad on the hair. He will definatly need some actual pct like nolva/clomid/rebountxt/ultra hot. But I think superdrol would be good since its legal, and he isn't looking for huge mass gains. It'll give him some good strength gains, leave his hair around, and give him a more dried/hard look.

Just my opinion though.
 
Anavar is not nessarily expensive if you have a powder source... However BD is... yikes.

Your not looking for large gains though, and if money isn't an issue with you.. Anavar could work, although for your size, I'd say your looking at a minimum dose of 40-60mg to get results. Personally I thought of using anavar a few times, and I'm very much intrigued with the idea of a 6 week cycle at 100mg ED. But considering your source, I'd also lean you in the direction of SD for a short 2-3 week cycle, followed by a proper pct...
 
Yes, powder is always cheaper...I'm speaking of it just not being worth the money when you can buy cheaper, more effective compounds for MUCH less....powder will always be affordable though, no doubt.

I like the SD idea as well....
 
thanks guys for the reply!! much apprecciate

no offence to DS and superdrol but I prefer to get a tested product that i have checked all the studies pubblished (so side effects etc...) that something that i do not know what effects can have on my body. Irony i think sometimes steroids are much safer because of all the medical literature that you have.....

Anyway, anyone did a cycle only with anavar? what pct has used and for how long?
 
Shorinryu said:
thanks guys for the reply!! much apprecciate

no offence to DS and superdrol but I prefer to get a tested product that i have checked all the studies pubblished (so side effects etc...) that something that i do not know what effects can have on my body. Irony i think sometimes steroids are much safer because of all the medical literature that you have.....

Anyway, anyone did a cycle only with anavar? what pct has used and for how long?
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Search for posts by Riskarb, I think he has done a few cycles.. 80mg or more a day anavar only.
 
I certainly feel effects when running 40mg/day, I think especially if it's his first-he's gonna feel it pretty fast..run it at 30 or more, if your worried about hairloss just use proscar or propecia, if you go to 60 or more a day, you'll start feeling more androgenic effects, so I would keep it between 30-50

lifted said:
Well, its' good that you did/are doing your research, but unfortunatley it's very outdated. I will say that what you have planned, you will be very dissapointed. 10mg ED isn't going to do a single thing for you. Even up to 40mg ED, var will still exert hardly any effects. Even for a first cycle. Var IMO is a total waste of cash, especially since it;s so damn expensive.

Chrysin isn't an alternative to SERMS for PCT. Nelson Montanna tried to tell it like it is back in the day with this garbage...it's totally false....you still will need to either run nolva or clomid.

Also, any kind of hormonal compound is going to shutdown the HPTA. There is no such animal as taking AAS and not having your body stop producing natural test. Even if it be minimal, it will still happen. It seems non-aromatizing compounds will shut you down less when compared, but still the fact remains...thats the problem with dated info.

If I were you, I'd pick something else for a first cycle...try test @ 250-500mg/week. DHT, bloat, hairloss will not be much of concern at this low a dose...
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Var is one of my favorite compounds. Expense is relative. I ran var at 40mg last cycle and def notice the positive effects. For a first cycle I would run Test and var. hell for any cycle test and var is great.
 
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