Overkill? A non-hormonal stack...

poopee

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Long-time lurker here who has recently completed a Halo-50/ Prostanozol cycle. Liked the results, up 5lbs after PCT while leaning out considerably (stats: 36 yrs old, 5' 10'' and 202). PCT was nolva 20, 20, 10 with trib, ZMA, milk thistle, and SAM-e. I run coq-10, EFA's and multi year-round.

I'm considering a natural T boosting stack, with the goal being to lean up some more and possibly add a couple of pounds of muscle heading into the summer. Here's what I had in mind:

Activate @ 3 caps/day
Nutrabolics Hydrotest (trib 80% protodioscin) following a 5 days on 2 off protocol
ZMA at night as directed
AX Lean Xtreme 3/day

I was also going to throw in some fenugreek for the hell of it. I guess I was wondering if anyone had any feedback on this potential stack? Anyone have any advice on dosing or adding or subtracting anything?

Lurking on this board was invaluable for me in researching my Halo cycle and for that I thank everyone here.

Oh yeah, for any estrogen issues, I'll be running I3C.
 
poopee said:
I'm considering a natural T boosting stack, with the goal being to lean up some more and possibly add a couple of pounds of muscle heading into the summer. Here's what I had in mind:

Activate @ 3 caps/day
Nutrabolics Hydrotest (trib 80% protodioscin) following a 5 days on 2 off protocol
ZMA at night as directed
AX Lean Xtreme 3/day
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Welcome to the board-Since you are planning to use two Designer Supplement products already might i suggest adding a third Rebound XT
A sample 4 week protocol might be
Week 1 2 caps Rebound 4 caps Activate 2-3 Lean Xtreme
Week 2 2 caps Rebound 4 caps Activate 2-3 Lean Xtreme
Week3 2 caps Rebound 4 caps Activate 2-3 Lean Xtreme
Week4 1 cap Rebound 4 caps Activate 2-3 Lean Xtreme

This would be very successfully in providing the natural T boost you are looking for without impacting the HPTA like pro-hormones or anabolics do
 
njmuscle66 said:
Welcome to the board-Since you are planning to use two Designer Supplement products already might i suggest adding a third Rebound XT
A sample 4 week protocol might be
Week 1 2 caps Rebound 4 caps Activate 2-3 Lean Xtreme
Week 2 2 caps Rebound 4 caps Activate 2-3 Lean Xtreme
Week3 2 caps Rebound 4 caps Activate 2-3 Lean Xtreme
Week4 1 cap Rebound 4 caps Activate 2-3 Lean Xtreme

This would be very successfully in providing the natural T boost you are looking for without impacting the HPTA like pro-hormones or anabolics do
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Huge bump to this recommendation. Great stregnth gains!!!!!
 
Thanks to all for the input.

Re the Rebound, I've been a little wary of ATD and potential estrogen rebound issues later down the line. It's the reason I stuck to nolva for PCT.

Although, as part of a non-hormonal stack the risk would seem to be less, given that estrogen is not already low from slightly anti-e compounds like Superdrol, Halo, prostanozol, etc?
 
poopee said:
Thanks to all for the input.

Re the Rebound, I've been a little wary of ATD and potential estrogen rebound issues later down the line. It's the reason I stuck to nolva for PCT.

Although, as part of a non-hormonal stack the risk would seem to be less, given that estrogen is not already low from slightly anti-e compounds like Superdrol, Halo, prostanozol, etc?
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You should have no estrodial problems from running Rebound with Activate, for added comfort you can taper off the ATD.
 
Yeh that "ATD creates an estrogen rebound" thing only happens when going from a high dose to zero in PCT and mostly in SD PCT.
 
Thx. I think I might give it a shot at a low dose, like 1 cap/day of AX PCT, which I believe is 17mg ATD, and see how I feel.
 
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