Ostarine

Thebull17

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I have just completed a course of ostarine at 20mg a day just had my bloods done and my test is nonexistent, my oestradiol through floor along with my SHGB, free test, free androgen index. What is best PCt to rectify this is was think 50mg clomid a day for four weeks. I seriously underestimated the SARMs.
 
Thebull17 said:
I have just completed a course of ostarine at 20mg a day just had my bloods done and my test is nonexistent, my oestradiol through floor along with my SHGB, free test, free androgen index. What is best PCt to rectify this is was think 50mg clomid a day for four weeks. I seriously underestimated the SARMs.
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Sorry man, but people just don't plan correctly (or sometimes at all).
Never put something into your body without a Proper plan, and having everything in place.

Wouldn't it have been better to have asked us this question Before you put yourself in this situation?

Yeah ... We'll help you.

But you put yourself in a Bad situation here, that could potentially be worse than you believe it to be
 
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Thebull17 said:
That's exactly what I thought upon seeing the results. Any advice you can offer get them back to normal ranges. I think possibly a GP visit.
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How come your doctor didn’t put you on something based off your results? PCT would be what you should have done.
 
BillD said:
How come your doctor didn’t put you on something based off your results? PCT would be what you should have done.
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I did them through a private lab... A PCT is what is what im looking at as I complete the course of 6 weeks this weekend.
 
Looking for some advice on best PCT with them numbers. Was going for 50mg clomid for four weeks until I seen numbers and shocked me.
 
BillD said:
You sure it was actually ostarine? What brand was it?
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This is what ostarine does. It tanks testosterone and suppression starts at 3mg a day. Osta destroys a lot of peoples bloodwork. Very common. I know more then 1 person who intentionally crashed there test with osta to go on trt
 
Thebull17 said:
Looking for some advice on best PCT with them numbers. Was going for 50mg clomid for four weeks until I seen numbers and shocked me.
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Nolvadex 40,40,20,20 and then check bloods again, if you wanna kick it up a knotch add 12.5mg enclomiphene
 
This is why I usually steer people away from ostarine. The negative sides outweigh the positive by a landslide for many ppl and it seems like only a small amount of people get positive results without the downsides
 
Smont said:
This is what ostarine does. It tanks testosterone and suppression starts at 3mg a day. Osta destroys a lot of peoples bloodwork. Very common. I know more then 1 person who intentionally crashed there test with osta to go on trt
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Couldn't believe when seen that blood work expected a crash but not to that extent. One sarm I will never use again to say the least.
 
Smont said:
This is what ostarine does. It tanks testosterone and suppression starts at 3mg a day. Osta destroys a lot of peoples bloodwork. Very common. I know more then 1 person who intentionally crashed there test with osta to go on trt
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Damn I knew it was suppressive but not to that extent. Can only imagine how bad Rad or Lgd actually is.
 
BillD said:
Damn I knew it was suppressive but not to that extent. Can only imagine how bad Rad or Lgd actually is.
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Remember, they're their own compounds.
Because Ostarine (often) does this, it's not an indicator of what other compounds do.
 
That wasn't worded correctly but I've seen more testosterone suppression "peoples bloodwork " from osta then any other sarm.

Here's the part where everyone screws up tho.....

It dosent matter, there all supressive and they all require full pct. Anyone who thinks sarms are a safe alternative to steroids is a damn fool and mind you I'm a rep that sells sarms. I'm not saying I don't like them, I love injectable lgd and s23 is pretty great too, I like rad but only tried oral version.

But there not a safe alternative. They carry all the same side effects as oral steroids and prohormones and you can negate these sides by using 5ish mg a day but you mine as well flush your money down the toilet at that dose.

Sarms are on par with the weaker oral steroids at similar doses and similar or more side effects. And it varies person to person. I get zero side effects from most sarms. Even lgd at 50mg a day, no sides. But Bob down the street ran 12.5mg for 4 weeks and was a trt candidate with bad cholesterol markers after 4 weeks.

"Bob's not a real person, just a example "
 
BillD said:
Do we know what his starting numbers where before the ostarine?
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I would ask him, would be good for reference. The end numbers don't mean much without the starting numbers but there's a few things I can point out that I believe show osta is the cause. If he had low t already then his fsh and lh would most likely be very low, but it looks like it suppressed testosterone while not crushing those other numbers which is fairly common from what I've seen. For some reason sarms do seem to not dramatically effect those
 
BillD said:
So how come “most” info you read says osta
Is least suppressive sarm?
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Because originally it was touted as non supressive and a lot of scummy mofos want you to buy osta and even run it in pct. Also The average person is a moron and doesn't know how to interpret the studies so lots of talking parrots saying it's not supressive. The originally studies showed suppression started as low as 3mg a day for 2 weeks I believe.

And when I say the average person is a moron. 🤚 I'm guilty myself sometimes. It's unfortunately nature to be lazy and sometimes we see a study or small piece of info and run with it.

I know about 10 years ago I definitely used osta with Dermacrine and no pct after
 
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The 143lb sarm king says use 25mg of osta during pct. This guy looks like he knows his ****...Invalid Link Removed
 
Smont said:
I would ask him, would be good for reference. The end numbers don't mean much without the starting numbers but there's a few things I can point out that I believe show osta is the cause. If he had low t already then his fsh and lh would most likely be very low, but it looks like it suppressed testosterone while not crushing those other numbers which is fairly common from what I've seen. For some reason sarms do seem to not dramatically effect those
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Before I started didnt have the full hormone test done only a testosterone test. And my starting test figure was 8.54nmol/L so wasn't particularly high to start but now non existent.
 
Thebull17 said:
Before I started didnt have the full hormone test done only a testosterone test. And my starting test figure was 8.54nmol/L so wasn't particularly high to start but now non existent.
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Dude, that's very low. Knowing your free T level would be of interest, but I bet it was very low as well, with a TT level like that. I think it would be best for you to concentrate just on your hormone levels next. And I mean beyond just the PCT. Do your best PCT with the Nolva or Clomid or Enclo, they're all good at increasing test production. Nolva also protects against possible rebound estro induced gyno the best out of those 3 SERM's. And don't be afraid to extend your PCT to more, than 4 weeks, if blood work for example indicates the need.

If after a proper PCT and time off of everything has your test levels drop to that kind of low numbers again, like you had pre the Osta run, then it would be wise to try and see, if your lifestyle needs some modifying, like sleep, nutrition etc. And if you can't find any lifestyle tweaks, that imrpove your hormone levels, then maybe it's time to take a look at TRT.

8.54 nmol/l = 246 ng/dl for folks more accustomed to ng/dl measuring unit.
 
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Smont said:
The 143lb sarm king says use 25mg of osta during pct. This guy looks like he knows his ****...Invalid Link Removed
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Oh man, haven’t seen his pictures in a while. It’s like he’s shrinking, eventually all that’s gonna be left is skin and tattoos draped over bones, and then that head.😂
 
Renew1 said:
Sorry man, but people just don't plan correctly (or sometimes at all).
Never put something into your body without a Proper plan, and having everything in place.

Wouldn't it have been better to have asked us this question Before you put yourself in this situation?

Yeah ... We'll help you.

But you put yourself in a Bad situation here, that could potentially be worse than you believe it to be
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In OP's defense depending on where he got his info he may of read how "non-suppressive" and "safe" and "mild" ostarine is. There is still a TON of BS out there about these compound, even after all these years I have to debunk sarm BS weekly at my store(where I DON'T sell them.)
 
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