Ostarine Questions

Fit1962 said:
I'm using topical formabolic. It seems to be working based on libido. Morning wood and libido are pretty strong for. 52yr old! But my skin still doesn't have that hard look. My body fat is relatively low, I would guess 10-12%. I ordered some arimidex for estrogen control but I haven't taken it yet as I'm not sure I need it. I start clomid after an ostarine run. I kept using it after I read that some doctors use it for TRT. Though my natural test levels were normal at 575. After using low dose clomid for 6 weeks my test came back at 1348. So I'm continuing to use it for another month before another blood test to see how the higher testosterone affects my gains.
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Get your bodyfat lower.
 
Fit1962 said:
To look hard? This was 4 weeks ago Invalid Link Removed
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What was you bf% there? Did it increase since then or stayed the same? Also, what is your definition of a hard look? My impression of a hard look is pretty much thin skin, veins popping, and pumped :P Grainy if you will.
 
kissdadookie said:
What was you bf% there? Did it increase since then or stayed the same? Also, what is your definition of a hard look? My impression of a hard look is pretty much thin skin, veins popping, and pumped :P Grainy if you will.
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I was assuming my body fat was 10-12 here. If anything I'm probably a little leaner since this photo. I have bicep veins but none other. And yes I think hard is thin looking skin as well. I'm old lol so my skin is a little saggy! :/
 
Fit1962 said:
I was assuming my body fat was 10-12 here. If anything I'm probably a little leaner since this photo. I have bicep veins but none other. And yes I think hard is thin looking skin as well. I'm old lol so my skin is a little saggy! :/
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Yeah, thin grainy skin is going to need to go a bit lower on the bodyfat. You don't look particularly bloated (if at all) in that photo btw.
 
kissdadookie said:
Yeah, thin grainy skin is going to need to go a bit lower on the bodyfat. You don't look particularly bloated (if at all) in that photo btw.
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Thanks! Maybe I don't know what bloated looks like. I probably could lose some body fat to the 8-10% range. I'm caught in the psychological area of the scale. I'm at 145-147lb now at 5'6. So I'd probably need to get to 135-140 for the 8% range ughh.
 
Fit1962 said:
Thanks! Maybe I don't know what bloated looks like. I probably could lose some body fat to the 8-10% range. I'm caught in the psychological area of the scale. I'm at 145-147lb now at 5'6. So I'd probably need to get to 135-140 for the 8% range ughh.
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When you get down to a real 8%, yeah, you're going to have a pretty hard physique relative to what normal people would consider a "hard physique."
 
kissdadookie said:
When you get down to a real 8%, yeah, you're going to have a pretty hard physique relative to what normal people would consider a "hard physique."
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I agree with kdd here. It's not bloat for sure. At your age honestly the best thing you can do to get a harder look is to build more muscle and have less fat. Your skin isn't as elastic as it was 30yrs ago so you need to stretch it outward in order to get the same look someone younger could. It's not that you can't but it's def gonna take more since you just naturally can't get as tight as a 25yr old without all the additional mass.

That said, you have a hell of a physique for your age. Being that low (8% or less) could be pretty rough on your hormones and harder to recover from afterwards so be careful with how extreme you get.
 
booneman77 said:
I agree with kdd here. It's not bloat for sure. At your age honestly the best thing you can do to get a harder look is to build more muscle and have less fat. Your skin isn't as elastic as it was 30yrs ago so you need to stretch it outward in order to get the same look someone younger could. It's not that you can't but it's def gonna take more since you just naturally can't get as tight as a 25yr old without all the additional mass.

That said, you have a hell of a physique for your age. Being that low (8% or less) could be pretty rough on your hormones and harder to recover from afterwards so be careful with how extreme you get.
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Thanks man! I'm hoping my increased testosterone currently will give me a boost to gain at least a few pounds of lean mass.
 
Fit1962 said:
Won't 200-300 calories above maintenace be enough for lean gains?
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that's totally dependent on the person. Some yes, some will get fat, and others will do nothing. Those numbers you've got aren't supraphysiological so you're not gonna be putting mass on as if you were on cycle but it certainly will help
 
Fit1962 said:
Won't 200-300 calories above maintenace be enough for lean gains?
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Wtf are lean gains? Lulz. I look at gains always coming with fat gain as well. The goal however is to not get too fat when bulking. There's no arbitrary number of calories to consume for lean gains, you basically have to gauge your progress on a consistent and regular basis. Getting too fat too fast, dial it back a bit. Not really gaining much of anything (fat or lean mass), push it a bit more.
 
kissdadookie said:
Wtf are lean gains? Lulz. I look at gains always coming with fat gain as well. The goal however is to not get too fat when bulking. There's no arbitrary number of calories to consume for lean gains, you basically have to gauge your progress on a consistent and regular basis. Getting too fat too fast, dial it back a bit. Not really gaining much of anything (fat or lean mass), push it a bit more.
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and this is what I'm doing! So I'm good!
 
Unholy said:
Does anybody checked liver enzymes before and after ostarine solo cycle? I'm really interested how toxic it is.
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Yes all my levels came back normal, very similar from my last 6 tests prior to taking osta. No effects and this is without any cycle support.
 
Unholy said:
Does anybody checked liver enzymes before and after ostarine solo cycle? I'm really interested how toxic it is.
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I have ran a couple of osta cycles and did not have any issue with liver values. ALT\AST were in range in my mblood work
 
Kutz2 said:
Guys are running it to high. Also could contribute to diet. A **** diet could raise liver test all by itself
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I was on 15 mg ed for 6 weeks in the first osta cycle, and was on 20 mg ed for 8 weeks in the second one.
Yes diet affects liver values, however, heavy training may also increases liver and kidney values too.
 
Gonna be logging osta shred if anyone wants to follow along. interesting compound with osta, arimistane, and l-dopa
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kissdadookie said:
Wtf are lean gains? Lulz. I look at gains always coming with fat gain as well. The goal however is to not get too fat when bulking. There's no arbitrary number of calories to consume for lean gains, you basically have to gauge your progress on a consistent and regular basis. Getting too fat too fast, dial it back a bit. Not really gaining much of anything (fat or lean mass), push it a bit more.
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. I finally weighed last week and was up 2lbs since January 1. I also seem to be leaner and definitely feel bigger and do have more strength. So it seems as if the increased testosterone from the clomid is helping. I'm now into my 9th week of clomid. I think I'm going to get another blood test this week. You think I'm still ok with the female panel? Someone mentioned SHBG increasing with clomid and binding the extra test? I really don't want to pay for that extra, what's your opinion?
I've been using formabolic every other day when I take the clomid, and I don't seem to see any estrogen sides.
 
Just jumped on the Olympus Labs sale nutraPlanet and got me some OSTAR1NE and SUP3R PCT, I never ran any type of cycle before I plan to dose the Osta @ 15mg ED for 6 weeks not looking for any size just more into the tendons and ligaments repair effect it has. I also have some daa i might ran along with the Osta. Is there anything else I missing or any suggestions? I might get some nolva just in case.
 
hmmoreno said:
Just jumped on the Olympus Labs sale nutraPlanet and got me some OSTAR1NE and SUP3R PCT, I never ran any type of cycle before I plan to dose the Osta @ 15mg ED for 6 weeks not looking for any size just more into the tendons and ligaments repair effect it has. I also have some daa i might ran along with the Osta. Is there anything else I missing or any suggestions? I might get some nolva just in case.
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DAA on cycle is prob meh. It's cheap so you can do it but it'll most likely have more benefit in pct. You need at a minimum an OTC pct but I suggest getting Nolva or a serm like you said. Might wanna have an ai on hand as well as many have reported estro sides (mild mostly)
 
I've been on clomid now for 8 weeks. I want to get my blood work done again. My test last time was 1348. My estrogen was high as well. I've been formabolic for the last month. If my estrogen is down should I worry about paying for a shbg test? My only concern is whether my higher test level is being countered by high shbg. I do seem to have made some pretty good gains in the last two months though.
 
hmmoreno said:
Just jumped on the Olympus Labs sale nut
not looking for any size just more into the tendons and ligaments repair effect it has.
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I wouldn't take it solely for repair, as it's never been proven to do this. Having a little more estrogen in your body because of the osta, might make your joints feel a little better temporarily though. For the effects you are after, you might want to consider hgh, cissus, msm, etc.
 
booneman77 said:
DAA on cycle is prob meh. It's cheap so you can do it but it'll most likely have more benefit in pct. You need at a minimum an OTC pct but I suggest getting Nolva or a serm like you said. Might wanna have an ai on hand as well as many have reported estro sides (mild mostly)
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I agree with the DAA on cycle.

I added Elimistane recently to my Osta cycle (Arimistane, Chrysin cyclodextrin and E. Cottonii), and my estro sides seem to be reversing a bit. I have a much stronger AI on hand, but didn't want to completely kill estrogen. Of course, I just finished off some 11-OXO as well, so hoping the Arimistane helps with mitigating cortisol as well.
 
booneman77 said:
DAA on cycle is prob meh. It's cheap so you can do it but it'll most likely have more benefit in pct. You need at a minimum an OTC pct but I suggest getting Nolva or a serm like you said. Might wanna have an ai on hand as well as many have reported estro sides (mild mostly)
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I dont think Estrogen would be an issue on or after Ostarine . Seen bloodworks done after 6 weeks on osta and estrogen was perfect. But now I am talking about just ostarine.
 
Hey guys please help me.
This thread is allways jumping so I wanted to put a question out here pertaining to my friend who is on his 26-27 day of Osta & this morning he started getting a bloody noes for no reason . Is this typical of Osta? I'm also running Osta but have no side at all.
I'm guessing it's his BP??
Any help please
 
WANTED said:
Hey guys please help me.
This thread is allways jumping so I wanted to put a question out here pertaining to my friend who is on his 26-27 day of Osta & this morning he started getting a bloody noes for no reason . Is this typical of Osta? I'm also running Osta but have no side at all.
I'm guessing it's his BP??
Any help please
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Is he ONLY running osta? Nothing with osta? No supplements, no steroids or?
 
WANTED said:
Hey guys please help me.
This thread is allways jumping so I wanted to put a question out here pertaining to my friend who is on his 26-27 day of Osta & this morning he started getting a bloody noes for no reason . Is this typical of Osta? I'm also running Osta but have no side at all.
I'm guessing it's his BP??
Any help please
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Well he should be checking his BP regularly as this can be caused due to high bp. Ostarine has been noted to increase bp slightly in some users, but nothing significant.
 
I've never seen anyone complain of bp issues with osta before... Does he get nosebleeds often? If not, could be just a random one off. That happens to me once every 5 years or so. No real cause, just a bad day
 
booneman77 said:
I've never seen anyone complain of bp issues with osta before... Does he get nosebleeds often? If not, could be just a random one off. That happens to me once every 5 years or so. No real cause, just a bad day
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No not often. I told him it was probably just random. We live in California & it's starting to get dry and hot out. Probably the reason.
Thanks Booneman
 
WANTED said:
No not often. I told him it was probably just random. We live in California & it's starting to get dry and hot out. Probably the reason. Thanks Booneman
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just as long as it's not the first nosebleed he's ever had, I wouldn't even worry about it.
 
Just received my blood tests back after being on a low dose clomid for 8 weeks. My total testosterone was 1234 which is down from 1348 a month ago. Estradiol was 56 compared to 50 last month though what I read is that estrogen is hard to gauge when you're on clomid. My BUN level this time was above normal at 25 normal range being 6-24. Before I began using clomid right after my 8 week ostarine run my BUN level was at 23, my last blood test a month ago was 24, high but normal. Should I be concerned about this being high since it is an indicator of liver function?
 
Fit1962 said:
Just received my blood tests back after being on a low dose clomid for 8 weeks. My total testosterone was 1234 which is down from 1348 a month ago. Estradiol was 56 compared to 50 last month though what I read is that estrogen is hard to gauge when you're on clomid. My BUN level this time was above normal at 25 normal range being 6-24. Before I began using clomid right after my 8 week ostarine run my BUN level was at 23, my last blood test a month ago was 24, high but normal. Should I be concerned about this being high since it is an indicator of liver function?
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Shoot man , I'll take those numbers any day bro.
 
WANTED said:
Shoot man , I'll take those numbers any day bro.
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Lol yes I'm not complaining about the testosterone level. However I am going to experiment and increase the clomid from 20mg EOD to 30mg EOD to see if the test goes back up. I have noticed my strength being up since I've been using clomid for TRT. really my concern was more the BUN increase, but after doing some reading that seems normal and not unheard of.
 
BertBolic said:
I wonder if the people who ran osta in pct did not get any sides just because they ran an AI or sarm along with it.
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I have seen some blood works in which Ostarine (max. 10mg/ed) and a SERM (Tamox 20mg/ed) were ran together. This Ostarine dosage had a strong anticatabolic/anabolic effects and didn't affect the HTPA so heavy. It didn't inhibit the work of Tamoxifen over four weeks. The values were nearly the same as pre-cycle. I could imagine that 5mg/ed of Ostarine would also be enough then the axis would have even better levels. But this is just a estimation.

I will do the same thing in my next cycle - run Ostarine along with Tamoxifen.
 
sanmarino said:
I have seen some blood works in which Ostarine (max. 10mg/ed) and a SERM (Tamox 20mg/ed) were ran together. This Ostarine dosage had a strong anticatabolic/anabolic effects and didn't affect the HTPA so heavy. It didn't inhibit the work of Tamoxifen over four weeks. The values were nearly the same as pre-cycle. I could imagine that 5mg/ed of Ostarine would also be enough then the axis would have even better levels. But this is just a estimation.

I will do the same thing in my next cycle - run Ostarine along with Tamoxifen.
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Yea I have seen bloodworks where ostarine was used (5-10mg) in PCT and it was good. 5 to 10mg in PCT would be more than enough with SERM.
 
Fit1962 said:
Lol yes I'm not complaining about the testosterone level. However I am going to experiment and increase the clomid from 20mg EOD to 30mg EOD to see if the test goes back up. I have noticed my strength being up since I've been using clomid for TRT. really my concern was more the BUN increase, but after doing some reading that seems normal and not unheard of.
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Thanks for doing this. It's rare to see experimentation...even rarer to find someone that will also get bloods! :) You are doing a service my friend. Are you in consult with an Endo? Wonder what long term Clomiphene does? You expecting any Estro rebound/taking, or have an AI (like Aromisin) on hand?
 
sanmarino said:
I have seen some blood works in which Ostarine (max. 10mg/ed) and a SERM (Tamox 20mg/ed) were ran together. This Ostarine dosage had a strong anticatabolic/anabolic effects and didn't affect the HTPA so heavy. It didn't inhibit the work of Tamoxifen over four weeks. The values were nearly the same as pre-cycle. I could imagine that 5mg/ed of Ostarine would also be enough then the axis would have even better levels. But this is just a estimation.

I will do the same thing in my next cycle - run Ostarine along with Tamoxifen.
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Which is exactly why I use and promote osta use in pct
 
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