Surely there's no way a suppliment company like OL can put one thing on the ingredients label and another in the actual ****ing capsule???
getting a bit pissed. though still pleased with gains. tapering to 15mg in 5th week (next week) and possibly finishing then...
You're getting a bit pissed but pleased with gains? The product is working and you are getting pissed? I don't think I'm understanding your post haha...
You are absolutely correct though, there is no way that would happen. Let's look at the process that would go into doing such a ridiculous thing and then ask yourself why a successful supplement company such as OL would do such a thing.
1. We purity test every batch. This costs us money, every single time we test new batches. Why would we spend the money to test our raws if we were offering anything less than not only acceptable but extremely high quality raw powders? That would make zero sense. Why would a supplement company with staying power like us intentionally try to lead customers astray? Is that a sustainable business plan?
2. We operate with a manufacturing process that only allows for a 10% variance rate. This is done by machines, meaning, we would legitimately have to, after the caps have been produced, go to the manufacturer, unseal a few bottles, take the cotton out, pick a few capsules, and dump only 1/4 of them out. Then, we would have to put the caps back together, put the cotton back in, put a seal on the bottle, put the lid on and THEN reseal the shrink wrap seal.
I've been on these boards for years, I've seen 100's of members come and go. Being around that long has allowed me to coin a little term called forum mentality. Forum mentality is essentially mob placebo effect. Once one person says something, then another one starts to think it and it begins to snowball.
Here's the thing, there are so many variables to fitness that there a number of things that could be at play leading people to not see the results they'd like to, especially when dealing with hormones. No one has any idea how each specific individual is going to react to any hormone or any substance that operates on hormones. By taking one hormone, you are going to affect another hormone or the biosynthesis of one. This hormone could be prolactin, it could be DHT or it could be estrogen or any other number of endogenous hormones. The dynamics of hormones aren't as easy as "oh, I'll take this and the only possible outcome will be this." Yes, for a lot of people it does happen that way but for those it doesn't, there is the possibility of a negative outcome. This is a risk when using ANYTHING hormonal.
This is when people start to go around and attempt to take shots at the company "I only gained 11 lbs, this hormone is underdosed." It happens, that's the way of the business world. Not one supplement company now or past has 100% positive reviews, it's just not realistic.
Here is what I recommend to all forum members, and is something I have always recommended, think for yourself. Read up on **** all on your own instead of going into a thread and taking one persons opinion as fact.
Also, if a product doesn't work, let the company know, any company. Don't throw a hissey fit and start attempting to discredit them or their practices as a company. If at any point in time someone handled things in a professional manner and approached us with issues rather than immediately saying "it's underdosed, your purity this or that" we would happily and have happily worked with customers to get it right. You'll get better results with honey than vinegar.
Unfortunately, it only takes a few members or COMPETING companies to influence the minds of others and plant seeds that are simply completely unfounded and absurd. We can't control them nor the way they choose to conduct themselves and or represent a company. All we can do is keep doing what we're doing to keep up our INCREDIBLY high satisfaction rate by continuing to do everything we do day in and day out to focus our attention on OUR consumers.
Like BigSwole the owner of Omega said on another board, he knows the owner and vouches for him. I know the owner and vouch for him. A ton of people that have been in the industry know and vouch for OL. You'd be surprised how deep OL's ties go hahaha I'm still surprised by it daily and question him about it lol. BigSwole also said the prices we're offering CONQU3R at is "suicide... offering it for pennies on the dollar" but that we're (OL) doing it for the customer.
The made up ideas that we're underdosing anything or not using the highest purity available, at the best prices available are completely and entirely false. That is evident in our business plan, our prices, transparency and the lengths we go to "pennies on the dollar" for our customers.
Thus I have no finalized opinions on it yet. We're likely using the same ostarine source as well since IML and BSL may as well be the same company.
