Tagger
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During PCT or not?
Ostarine Questions
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Grayson
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I think I read it in the q&a for OL labs thread that after a while ostarine can hypothetically increase shbg, so Daa will be pointless, but taking longjack or divanil won't be and might increase the effectiveness of the cycle.
xhrr
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I think one cap viron with topical form would be tits on an Osta cycle
wicked442
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Im running it at 15mg per day with my TRT. Im on my 3rd week with no gym time at all. My joints/injuries feel much better and im very impressed with my muscle definition. The results keep getting better. I cant wait for week 5-6. This is probably one of the fastest acting supps I've used.
kissdadookie
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Stuff should help with joints as I think at this point, it's pretty well known that it upregulates the aromatase enzyme so whatever free test you have floating around, it's going to turn into some estrogen (not all of it, but you'll end up with a higher than normal amount of it). Estrogen of course helps with the joints. Not something one should be too concerned about but definitely should keep in mind. Probably a good idea to keep a solid AI around just in case as well.
wicked442
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Agreed. I am using 12.5 mg of arom e3d. I feel the best at this dose. Bw in 6 weeks will tell for sure.
Duywayne
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Which brand did you use? The IML stuff messed me up bad..
Grayson
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Because of the 24hr half-life, what if you tapered the dose? Has this been done? Rifling through logs I didn't manage to see that, but I saw that recommendation on another forum.
No specifics to dosing other than "loading for 25 the first week or two then dropping down to 12.5."
I was thinking more along the lines of 30/30/25/25/20/15 for a high dosed cycle and 30/25/20/20/12.5/12.5 for low.
This might or might not limit suppression... idk really. Just thinking out loud...
No specifics to dosing other than "loading for 25 the first week or two then dropping down to 12.5."
I was thinking more along the lines of 30/30/25/25/20/15 for a high dosed cycle and 30/25/20/20/12.5/12.5 for low.
This might or might not limit suppression... idk really. Just thinking out loud...
Tagger
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No hair problems with me.
ericool007
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from what i heard, it actually helps your hair and makes your skin more clear while you are on it but thats just anecdoctal reports
Swolljaboi
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I've seemed to have oily skin and more acne on my back and shoulders since I've been on. No hair issues though. I've also been using formestane and tongkat and have been having great results.
kissdadookie
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Shouldn't have any hair issues. The stuff isn't a DHT derivative or metabolite. It doesn't convert to DHT ASFAIK. It shouldn't have any effects on DHT. High DHT is usually what causes accelerated hair loss if you are prone to hair loss.
Swolljaboi
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Also to throw in there I'm finishing up 8 weeks of osta on a calorie deficit. I haven't measure bf but I've lost 13 lbs and look noticeably leaner while increasing in strength and losing no noticeable muscle mass. Great supp.
Tagger
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Hell yeah, nice.
xhrr
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I've done it twice with other brands. The viron was more so in response to the possibility of osta increasing SHBG which the EL in it would possibly combat. Definitely rec. osta and form though. I run osta higher so I like having an AI like form on hand plus even the form would reduce the shbg along with the other added benefits.
money0351
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olympus labs osta...you cannot find a better value and they come in 5mg caps so it is very versatile
blacklac
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Yup. They post purity tests too, although I'm not sure if its 3rd party or what.
Spaniard
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It's most certainly 3rd party
ericool007
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well i lasted about a week on olympus labs osta (first time trying ostarine). idk what it was but from the very first dose i had non stop nausea all day long, and just a general unpleaseant feeling in my stomach that felt like something was trying to come back up and that feeling killed my appetite. i also had some weird muscle spasms ive never experienced before that i hope is nothing more serious but they stopped since i quit taking ostarine. I was not a fan lol, I shouldve went with PA instead thats next on my list of things to try.
I was dosing 10mg morning and 10mg evening.
I was dosing 10mg morning and 10mg evening.
kissdadookie
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That is quite bizarre as this is pretty much the first I've heard of such odd reactions/symptoms from ostarine.
ELROCK
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No issues here
Grayson
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When was your last hormonal cycle and what were you running before/during the week of osta?
Like kiss said, that's a very weird reaction...
kissdadookie
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I would never ignore weird reactions though. We are dealing with supplements here, kind of a wild wild west at times
Grayson
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I would never ignore weird reactions though. We are dealing with supplements here, kind of a wild wild west at times
Of course not, and especially with a sarm.
kissdadookie
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On a side note: yesterday was my first 25mg dose (usually do 20) and already feeling lubed
Can't wait to take this baby up to 30 next week
How long have you been running it? I'm planning on running 24 mg ED for 8 weeks starting the end of this month.
Grayson
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Just started yesterday. This will be second cycle. Planning on going at least 5 weeks if not 6 for lean gainZ
First cycle was for four weeks over the summer while running ud2.
PCT will be torem (should be here on the next few days) and I'll include the original ABE with 7-OH for cortisol support and daa.
I'm also utilizing mass hgh pre bed and ep1c pre workout.
Cals are between 16-18xbw (will be adjusted every two weeks) and using Borge's Advanced Concept Diet v2.0 principles.
ericool007
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last homone cycle had to be mechabol in may. Ive been Running Ep1c, DCP 2.0 and then just the basics, same thing before during and after Osta. I know it was the Osta because on saturday i Only took my morning dose and i doubled it since i wasnt going to be home later. not long after taking it i had nausea weird all day hiccups that came and go at least a dozen or more times even when i wasnt eating or drinking anything. Sunday i felt fine until i took my 10mg dose before i went to play flag football and it basically ruined me again for the day, I was hoping the side effects would eventually dissapear like they do with forskolin in some people but the appetite suppression due to nausea made it not worth it.
Also the weird muscle spasms which werent just a lil twitch but my entire forarm like a could see the muscle contract and shoot down my arm from elbow to wrist was unlike anything ive ever seen before and kind of scary.
kissdadookie
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Could be tendonitis or some sort of joints/ligaments inflammation. Doesn't sound like it's the ostarine doing it. Your symptom seems pretty isolated to probably something weird going on in the forearm musculature.
ericool007
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true i cant blame the ostarine for that because i was going pretty hard still and i noticed it mostly after my workouts. Iknow for a fact it just wasnt aggreeing with my stomach its a shame though i was really looking forward to it as a side effect free anabolic lol. O well
kissdadookie
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I friggin hate inflammed tendons/joints. I had to cut back a day to doing basically nothing that day just to account for the fact that I was waking up with god awful numbness in my arm. Or if I sit there with a controller gaming, my hand goes completely numb and super tingly often. LoL.
Tagger
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Bahahaha!
xhrr
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Do at least 6 if not 8 weeks if you can.
Grayson
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DONE.
I'm bumping it up to 30 on Friday and have another bottle from OL coming in. Gotta love that orbit sale.
Spaniard
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I missed the joke, I think haha
Tagger
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tommurph
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Haha, I get it now too! That is funny!
Swolljaboi
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Sounds like carpal tunnel.
xhrr
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Enjoy brotha should be fun. You running an AI alongside it or just epic and mass hgh?
Grayson
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I've got transFORM on hand, so starting week 3, I might do half a pump every few days.
And instead of mhgh, I've decided to kill my stash of AS l-dopa.
Day 3 and muscle fullness is there plus hunger is up like a mother and I had extra endurance during HIIT last night. Yesterday I plowed through 3.5 cups of pasta and nearly a pound of fish and could still eat more.
Can't wait for squats later on
kissdadookie
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That's what I thought it was, but it turned out to be the forearms and bicep insertion.
Grayson
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Only at high doses and only if you're bloating from the estrogen or if you just want it as a precaution.
Tbh, it's not needed in great quantities because you want the raised e2 for joint mobility. 1-2 caps of arimistane or. 5-1 pump of form every few days should suffice.
Grayson
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I'm going up to 30 this week. Some go up to 35-40.
Just don't dose lower than 20mg.
Lower runs can be up to 8. Higher runs at 6. I'm going to six that way there's only a 3-4 week pct and I can jump into halo/tr1umph if tests come back positive.