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ostarine cardarine and mk677 stack

what about some people saying the when you buy from "supplement companies" that the SARMS are laced with PH's ? Or is that only so you buy their RC's

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I used olypmius labs ostrine anf got pretty shut down.
 
thu_hobbit said:
i only planned on 8 weeks so thats good.
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yea man keep it to that and have a good natty test booster along side it throughout. I like HCGenerate "its expansive" but really works and I know some people hate on it because its pushed pretty hard on some other sites but it really does work.
 
justjake said:
also make sure your pct is G2G and clomid is in there my man, I think you did if i remember correctly.
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Yup already got the clomid as well and planned for pct.

Today i could definately tell that things have started to kick in. I have slarted to slim down more and my pants are fitting better. My abs are starting to show better as well as all the muscles in my upper body.

My endurance has also increased. Running and other cardio has become a lot easier. My legs are becoming more defined and i can go for longer with out tiring. I know this comes with incorporating more cardio into a workout but i also know from experience that this time it is at an accelerated rate.

Todays workout:

60 mins cardio...bike and rowing machine

Incline bench bb 4x10
Flat bench bb 4x10
Decline bench bb 4x10
Incline cable flies 4x10
Flat bench db flies 4x10
Superset wide/reg/narrow pushups Burnouts

Overhead db tri extension 4x8
Skull crushers 4x8
Cable press 4x8
Tri iso kickers 4x10

I have upped my reps from 8 to 10 per set and i am feeling great
 
The mk677 has been doin its job as well. Take it 30-60 mins before bed and it puts me to sleep right away. Also it has definately been helping me eat more and stay on track with my diet
 
justjake said:
yea man keep it to that and have a good natty test booster along side it throughout. I like HCGenerate "its expansive" but really works and I know some people hate on it because its pushed pretty hard on some other sites but it really does work.
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Please explain how a natural test booster ( fadogia and a low dose of it) works on cycle with a suppressive anabolic. There are supps out there with the same main ingredient as hcgenerate that are higher dosed and literally cost 1/5 the price of hcgenerate. Don't fall for that advertising, it's a straight lie.
 
yates84 said:
Please explain how a natural test booster ( fadogia and a low dose of it) works on cycle with a suppressive anabolic. There are supps out there with the same main ingredient as hcgenerate that are higher dosed and literally cost 1/5 the price of hcgenerate. Don't fall for that advertising, it's a straight lie.
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^^^^Truth!!!!
 
i am saving my natural anabolics for my PCT since they will not do much if any during my cycle.

so far i am really liking this combo. i start the cardarine next week. the ostarine is definately doing its job. i can tell by my strength shooting way up. the letrone is keeping me from getting bloated and the mk677 is helping me eat properly (reminds me to eat) and drastically improving my sleep quality. the dermacrine has helped with my libido. i have no signs of shut down at all.
 
so guys and gals,

is there anything else that you would like to see in this log? i havent really had much experience with logging things so all the input you have is much appreciated.

feel free to talk s#!% about whatever or criticize info or post rediculous memes or whatever. i just wanted to know what gets more people to give their input when i am logging so i can learn from yall. thanks everyone
 
CJNator said:
What about before and after pictures? All of it seems fine IMO.
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so you are tracking, i bridged from an epiandro cycle into this. the pictures will be from my last day of epiandro and from this week.

i think next time i do an osta stack i will just run this for 8 weeks and include the epiandro in it just based off of how well i responded to it. do you think that would be unsafe?
 
CJNator said:
What about before and after pictures? All of it seems fine IMO.
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so you are tracking, i bridged from an epiandro cycle into this. the pictures will be from my last day of epiandro and from this week.

i think next time i do an osta stack i will just run this for 8 weeks and include the epiandro in it just based off of how well i responded to it. do you think that would be unsafe?
 
thu_hobbit said:
so you are tracking, i bridged from an epiandro cycle into this. the pictures will be from my last day of epiandro and from this week.

i think next time i do an osta stack i will just run this for 8 weeks and include the epiandro in it just based off of how well i responded to it. do you think that would be unsafe?
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Epiandro/osta stack sounds awesome! Go for it next time!
 
yates84 said:
Please explain how a natural test booster ( fadogia and a low dose of it) works on cycle with a suppressive anabolic. There are supps out there with the same main ingredient as hcgenerate that are higher dosed and literally cost 1/5 the price of hcgenerate. Don't fall for that advertising, it's a straight lie.
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ok, what other sups are there? I would be interested in a replacement
 
justjake said:
ok, what other sups are there? I would be interested in a replacement
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There is no supplement that will keep your endogenous test production up while on exogenous hormones, that is just not how the negative feedback loop of the hpta works. This is why we rum a pct, to recover these lower natural test levels after being suppressed. The best thing you can use on cycle is a test base, this will cover up the negative effects of suppression such as lethargy and loss of libido. Popular test bases are: 4 andro, dermacrine, epiandro, trest. All have their own unique properties so it depends on what your cycle is to decide what test base to use. These will actually make a huge impact on your cycle and are probably half the cost of hcgenerate. If you would like to discuss this further you are more than welcome to pm me with any questions.
 
yesterday and todays workouts fealt great. my endurance has gone up and so has my strength. i have continued to cut down. i went to put on a pair of pants this morning and they were fitting very loose. i went down a notch on my belt so i decided to measure my waist...and i lost an inch on my waist on the last 2 weeks. that was a good confidence builder.

todays workout was an hour of cardio followed by shoulders and neck. it felt great in the gym and had a good pump afterwards. my vascularity is way up in my arms and shoulders and traps and chest, most likely because i am starting to lean out. i have noticed some new veins that ive never seen before though even when i was extremely lean which is always a nice thing.
 
yates84 said:
There is no supplement that will keep your endogenous test production up while on exogenous hormones, that is just not how the negative feedback loop of the hpta works. This is why we rum a pct, to recover these lower natural test levels after being suppressed. The best thing you can use on cycle is a test base, this will cover up the negative effects of suppression such as lethargy and loss of libido. Popular test bases are: 4 andro, dermacrine, epiandro, trest. All have their own unique properties so it depends on what your cycle is to decide what test base to use. These will actually make a huge impact on your cycle and are probably half the cost of hcgenerate. If you would like to discuss this further you are more than welcome to pm me with any questions.
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epiandro and dermacrine have been great, i have yet to try trest or 4 andro but i am looking to stock up on those for my next cycles.
 
CJNator said:
This around when each SARM should kick in
Osta week 2-3
LGD week 1-2
RAD week 1
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This is as close as you can call it right here, I agree with those numbers
 
yates84 said:
There is no supplement that will keep your endogenous test production up while on exogenous hormones, that is just not how the negative feedback loop of the hpta works. This is why we rum a pct, to recover these lower natural test levels after being suppressed. The best thing you can use on cycle is a test base, this will cover up the negative effects of suppression such as lethargy and loss of libido. Popular test bases are: 4 andro, dermacrine, epiandro, trest. All have their own unique properties so it depends on what your cycle is to decide what test base to use. These will actually make a huge impact on your cycle and are probably half the cost of hcgenerate. If you would like to discuss this further you are more than welcome to pm me with any questions.
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I dont think running a pro along it would help, anyway I could have my facts wrong but Ostrine provides great results and Cardarine is amazing as well and strats working a couple days after first taking it.
 
Well i am definately loving the results i am getting from the osta. This sunday i jump my dose up to 20mg/day and add in the cardarine.

Workouts have been smoothe. Endurance has invreased as well. I am already able to run longer and lift longer.

One thing is that i did notice some elevated bp on friday after trying a pw...so i went and got some support stuff. Other than that i am down a notch on my belt and my belly is not not touching my shirts anymore :)
 
holy crap! i left the gym so pumped this morning i fealt like my muscles were gunna explode out of my chest and tris. could barely even put my sweatshirt on afterwards...its snowing outside right now. my arms look massive and veiny. i guess since this is the 3rd week and i upped the dose to 20mg, the osta should be in full effect today. hopefully i get pumps like this the whole time. anyways my workout for the day:

incline db press 4x10
flat db press 4x10
decline db press 4x10
flat bench db flies 4x10
incline db flies 4x10 superset with overhead db tri press 4x8
tricep cable press 4x10
tri kickers 4xburnouts
 
i great news for me. this morning i woke up and was able to clearly see my top 4 abs defined without flexing. i am leaning out very quickly and this morning i did not want to leave the gym. i fealt very strong (noticably stronger than last week) and i am excited to see how this continues.

what supplement does everyone use for their bp while on cycle? right now all i have is coq10 and celery seed. i got a bad headache today and i know its because my bp is high. i added in the cardarine today so i hope that it helps. i am at 7mg/day right now
 
thu_hobbit said:
i great news for me. this morning i woke up and was able to clearly see my top 4 abs defined without flexing. i am leaning out very quickly and this morning i did not want to leave the gym. i fealt very strong (noticably stronger than last week) and i am excited to see how this continues.

what supplement does everyone use for their bp while on cycle? right now all i have is coq10 and celery seed. i got a bad headache today and i know its because my bp is high. i added in the cardarine today so i hope that it helps. i am at 7mg/day right now
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Hydro3 works very well for getting your bp down.
 
wow sorry guys. i dropped off for a couple days. i am still getting my lifting in, just was super busy with all the holiday stuff. pumps have been amazing and my strength/hardness/vascularity has skyrocketed since i started. i am currently on 20mg/day of osta.

the last few days i have been messing with my supps and found out that the target A-2 was what was putting me over the edge with bp, so i have decided to take it out of my stack until pct. since i took it out, my bp has normalized. this also mught be in part to adding in the cardarine last week. i will try putting the target A-2 back into my stack when i up the dosage of cardarine.

i will also be ordering some hydro3 to help with this as well.

on a lighter note for all you nerds out there...the new star wars comes out in 18 days!!!
 
today was cardio and heavy chest/tris. my chest and arms are so pumped i couldnt put my seat belt on right. i am still pumped right now 2 hours later. i only got about 3 hours of sleep last night so i am living off of coffee today but my workout was phenominal.
 
thu_hobbit said:
today was cardio and heavy chest/tris. my chest and arms are so pumped i couldnt put my seat belt on right. i am still pumped right now 2 hours later. i only got about 3 hours of sleep last night so i am living off of coffee today but my workout was phenominal.
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Great updates bro.

Gotta love that pump! Keep us posted.
 
yesterdays workout was back and bis. great workout and my back is definately becoming more defined and well as bigger.

today was legs day and i almost threw up. great workout. i did supersets followed by 30 mins cardio intervals. calves are getting massive and my legs as a whole are more defined. i was notified today that i will have to be leaving for work for 2 months come the beginning of feb, so i will be cutting my cycle a little short since i will not be able to lift where i am going. i will save the remainder of my osta for another cycle this summer. i will be starting my pct on 14 dec.

i have been on cycle for 9 weeks now, so i will be cutting it about 2 weeks short so that isn't too bad. i have loved the resuts of this stack and would like to try it again. next time i will run the osta the whole way through with epiandro or trest as a test base. here is my thoughts on the next stack:

trest: how long can someone run trest and what dosages safely?
radarine: weeks 1-4
ostarine: weeks 1-8
letrone: weeks 1-8
Hydro3: weeks 1-8

PCT: same as this stack? with last 2 weeks of serm + exem and 2 weeks after quitting serm
 
I am about half way through my PCT now and seem to be even hungrier than ever before. I am still eating clean but i just seem to always be hungry. Could it be that the ostarine was suppressing my appetite some or is it something in my PCT? i am currently using clomid, letrone and super pct.
 
Today i added the new T2 from Mind and Muscle.

I am down to 210 lbs and around 20% bf. I have really leaned out since i started this cycle but also bulked up. I have lost zero strength since stopping the ostarine. I decided to take the cardarine out of my supps because it was making me feel the dizzy feeling from low blood sugar
 
thu_hobbit said:
I am about half way through my PCT now and seem to be even hungrier than ever before. I am still eating clean but i just seem to always be hungry. Could it be that the ostarine was suppressing my appetite some or is it something in my PCT? i am currently using clomid, letrone and super pct.
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Letrone is supposed to increase ghrelin, which (similar to MK-677) increases appetite and also HGH/IGF-1.
 
Did not know that. I forgot to mention i have been taking the letrone and mk 677 throughout the cycle and during pct so the only real big change was taking the clomid and leaving the osta
 
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