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Ostarine and dosing.

Murderit

Murderit

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So after years of being in the sport and staying natural I decided to take ostarine at 25mgs and 100mgs of laxogenin for 8 weeks. I will say this, I put on 15-17 lbs. in all seriousness. Sounds crazy for a sarm and some plant based supp. My calories were up and I was training 6 days a week. Around week 6 I started feeling strange like very emotional, so I figured my test is being suppressed freaked out grabbed some DAA and Eliminate. Things got back to normal, first 2 days off my cycle were hell. I thought I was going to die. Way too emotional and had major anxiety. Here is my question to anyone who is knowledgable and can share some more insight with me. Was the dose and length too high and also should I really invest in a legit serm and not some OTC PTC. My next run I'm thinking about going 12.5mgs for a week then running 25mgs for two weeks then tapering off with 12.5 the following week. I will also be supplementing laxogenin and cardarine with the cycle. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 
Yes you should have a SERM as the main component of your PCT and possible an AI. Sounds like your E2 is high and your test levels are suppressed. Bloods are the only way to know but with no SERM in pct it's very likely that this is the case. The dose is high for Osta but not crazy high nor is the length of cycle. What exactly did your PCT consist of?
 
1) I'm convinced that for most people, in most scenarios, Ostarine shouldn't be run any higher than 10-15mg /d. Its a compound that is best suited to scenarios where catabolism is an ongoing concern, ie during kcal deficit periods, inury/sedentary scenarios, etc. There are 'better' bulking/recomping compounds.

2) You put on 15-17lbs. As a gross weight figure, that's rather meaningless. For all I know 50% of that was fat. If that figure represents mainly lean gains, then well done. Again, though, I think the sides at doses greater than 15mg /d demonstrate that Ostarine is just not the best choice for a bulk.

3) Personally, re your proposed dosing scheme (12.5/12.5/25/25/12.5), I think it might be better to run 10-15mg for 6-8 weeks. Something like RAD makes sense as a short blast run, but not really Ostarine. For example, you might run 4 weeks of RAD at 8-12mg /d on a kcal surplus, then follow with 6 weeks of Ostarine at maintanence down to deficit.

4) You absolutely should have a SERM, regardless of OTC product.
 
definitely get a serm, and you can pair it with an AIO anabolic product like AlphaMax to help give the little extra push to get your test back to normal
 
newage I became leaner and no I didn't use a serm. It's been 4 weeks no gyno but def felt bad for a week. But this osta is from EPG so god only knows what was really in it. Should I not do another cycle and hop on a serm now.
 
I like to use Google(a really popular search engine) when I have questions about something I know nothing about.
 
I would rather ask a forum of experienced individuals than take a chance on Google. It's that I know nothing about suppression or test levels , I would rather be safe than sorry. Anything else you'd like to be a douche about?
 
rascal14 let's not get to smart about things. Considering I was only asking question and I pretty much have 40 lbs on you while being 4 inches shorter ️️️.
 
Murderit said:
I would rather ask a forum of experienced individuals than take a chance on Google. It's that I know nothing about suppression or test levels , I would rather be safe than sorry. Anything else you'd like to be a douche about?
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There's plenty actually..
Do you always ask people to do your work for you?
Are you not capable of comprehending how the endocrine system works or how a SERM is used to restart your HPTA?
If you are incapable of these then you probably shouldn't be messing with your hormones.
 
And you do not have 40 pounds on me lmao my weight on here hasn't been updated since I joined years ago ?
 
There is also plenty of misinformation and I would much rather ask others who have had experience. The jury is still out on how suppressive ostarine actually is and if a serm is actually needed. Some people believe that no pct at all is needed for osta, while others swear you need a full pct. hmm why not continue to research on everything? That is what you're stating right, to do research? I'm pretty sure research involves asking others besides just reading about the endocrine system, which is exactly why I waited until I was 25 to touch anything. So instead of being an ass how about some input if you have had any experience with SARMS. I didn't come on this forum to be a dick, I came on here to ask a few questions and get some input from my peers.
 
Anytime you run something that messes with your hormones I recommend you use a SERM.. They're easy to find and cheap, I don't see an excuse not to. We can't source here, do some looking on your own and see what the general consensus is across other boards of where to trust or just go with the sponsors here.

I don't use RC anymore. Pharm grade is just as easy to find if you look good enough and it's usually cheaper.
 
Thank you that's all I wanted. Totally lost as far as RC that's why I'm here I want to learn more. I'm new to anything that changes hormones. Like I said it's appreciated.
 
I think it's was the effects of laxogenin and ostsrine has marked as being an enhancer of other drugs. I was very emotional on laxogenin from bps.
Turned me into a girl and now I'm back on my angry pills
 
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