now, a little over 2 weeks in, added 11-andro on tuesday, 300mg daily(100mg x 3doses), and started splitting the osta dose in 2x10mg. After splitting, I no longer get som weird rush of fullness I tended to get a few hours after taking 20mg in one dose, but I`m reckoning thats nothing to bother about. Not sure if adding 11 andro is worth the extra money, but I see no point doing 11 andro as a standalone, so I`ll just add it to the mix
Weight is up around 2-3lbs, added a bit of size, but guessing some fat/water, since I look bigger and a bit smoother. But so far, positives are about the same as havoc, if not better, but no sides whatsoever. I`ll definitly get more of this for the future.
Strength wise, hard to judge sinc I am stuck on 4x and 10x10(gvt) on many bodyparts due to shoulderpain (best waty to cure, Doggcrapps broomstick stretch, and avoiding all exercises that hurt) luckily dips, close grip benches , any kind of back and lateral shoulder exercise cause no pain. 10x10 weighted dip is plain fun ..... but I progress well. Switching from chest/triceps-back/biceps-shoulders/abs/calfs-quads,hams... to push/pull/legs... 2on 1 off type. Just to avoid the double whammy on the shoulders until it is totally fine again. But considering that 3 way split and training 4-5 times a week always gave the best gains, I might just stick with it longer.
The best news is, 1/3 almost 1/2 inch gain on arms, which is more than I ever had on this bodyweight... that alone, is worth it
