Osta Dose?

jackedviking

jackedviking

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So, why do Dylan Gemelli and all the other SARMs “experts” say never to take Ostarine over 25 mg? I’ve seen some literature that people have dosed it up fo 50mg a day. Same with MK677. Just curious.
 
jackedviking said:
So, why do Dylan Gemelli and all the other SARMs “experts” say never to take Ostarine over 25 mg? I’ve seen some literature that people have dosed it up fo 50mg a day. Same with MK677. Just curious.
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I have heard people have gotten gyno at higher doses. Of course who knows, could just be what they had was not Osta to begin with. Nevertheless, I would have an AI on hand. I will be running it at 25mg in a few weeks along with some Rad 140 at 10mg , 200 mg test trt dose, and Epi andro 750 mg on a cut. I have heard for cuts only 15mg of Osta is needed, but for a bulk or recomp 25mg is more optimal. My capsules are 25 mg so didn’t have a choice between the two.
 
JoePaul39 said:
I have heard people have gotten gyno at higher doses. Of course who knows, could just be what they had was not Osta to begin with. Nevertheless, I would have an AI on hand. I will be running it at 25mg in a few weeks along with some Rad 140 at 10mg , 200 mg test trt dose, and Epi andro 750 mg on a cut. I have heard for cuts only 15mg of Osta is needed, but for a bulk or recomp 25mg is more optimal. My capsules are 25 mg so didn’t have a choice between the two.
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Word! I'm currently dosing 25mg of Osta, was just curious. Not too worried about gyno as I take Arimidex weekly, and I'm also running epiandro.
 
jackedviking said:
Word! I'm currently dosing 25mg of Osta, was just curious. Not too worried about gyno as I take Arimidex weekly, and I'm also running epiandro.
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You take Srimedex for trt? That is what I have on hand for my planned cycle. I am on trt, but don’t take an AI, however I told my dr I would like to have one on hand just in case and he prescribed me a month worth with 12 refills so I am set
 
JoePaul39 said:
You take Srimedex for trt? That is what I have on hand for my planned cycle. I am on trt, but don’t take an AI, however I told my dr I would like to have one on hand just in case and he prescribed me a month worth with 12 refills so I am set
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Yes. Was taking .5mg a week but have subsequently dropped that down to .25mg a week. So, not worried about potential estro side with Osta.
 
Dylan Gemelli is a tool Lol
 
jackedviking said:
Dunno. Everybody seems to say “don’t go over 25mg bro!” but nobody can explain why.
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Well ostarine is more of a muscle sparing compound than muscle building so probably won't do much more than take your money to dose it higher.

A theory is that 25mg for 4 weeks won't shut you down or very very little which means it could be useful in pct. I actually ran it and I have my bloods in argentina while being in Europe.. I was gonna post it here damn it. I'll see if someone can read it for me instead cause I won't be there until December.

Just my take on it was that I didn't feel shutdown and I guess it's so weak that even if it did shut me down, clomid and nolva overpowered it.. I also felt like my recovery was better and that I almost leaned out slightly.

Basically ostarine should be better for a cut to not waste your muscles and going too high might shut you down more while not building more muscles.
 
Chados said:
Well ostarine is more of a muscle sparing compound than muscle building so probably won't do much more than take your money to dose it higher.

A theory is that 25mg for 4 weeks won't shut you down or very very little which means it could be useful in pct. I actually ran it and I have my bloods in argentina while being in Europe.. I was gonna post it here damn it. I'll see if someone can read it for me instead cause I won't be there until December.

Just my take on it was that I didn't feel shutdown and I guess it's so weak that even if it did shut me down, clomid and nolva overpowered it.. I also felt like my recovery was better and that I almost leaned out slightly.

Basically ostarine should be better for a cut to not waste your muscles and going too high might shut you down more while not building more muscles.
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Ah, good feedback! I mean, I’m on TRT so does the shutdown matter?
 
To my knowledge, 25mg is pretty arbitrary. The human study only went up to 3mg as I recall. Even then, there was a drop in test levels, so anyone who says it won’t cause any suppression doesn’t know what they’re talking about
 
Jeremyk1 said:
To my knowledge, 25mg is pretty arbitrary. The human study only went up to 3mg as I recall. Even then, there was a drop in test levels, so anyone who says it won’t cause any suppression doesn’t know what they’re talking about
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Yes but that was for 12 weeks I believe.. This is 4.
 
jackedviking said:
So 75mg then????
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When I first came to this forum I was pretty naive and was taking only 10mg of osta and I was even paranoid about what that was doing to my body. Now if I were to do it again I would start with 30mg at the least and work my way up to a higher dose. With you being on trt, I think you could try 50mg and see how that feels and tinker with the dose. This is an experimental time for sarms and one day we may look back on this era and laugh at the dosing protocols.
 
Chados said:
Well ostarine is more of a muscle sparing compound than muscle building so probably won't do much more than take your money to dose it higher.

A theory is that 25mg for 4 weeks won't shut you down or very very little which means it could be useful in pct. I actually ran it and I have my bloods in argentina while being in Europe.. I was gonna post it here damn it. I'll see if someone can read it for me instead cause I won't be there until December.

Just my take on it was that I didn't feel shutdown and I guess it's so weak that even if it did shut me down, clomid and nolva overpowered it.. I also felt like my recovery was better and that I almost leaned out slightly.

Basically ostarine should be better for a cut to not waste your muscles and going too high might shut you down more while not building more muscles.
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This is interesting. I might try it myself. I bet the clomid did overpower the osta but I’m sure the osta took away from clomid’s ability to help your test reach optimal levels. But it’s not like recovery ends when pct ends, the body naturally continues to bounce back. So maybe clomid would’ve got your test levels back to 650 but because you were taking osta it only got back to 500. This is a hypothetical but you get the point. If this is true, it may be worth it anyway since your test should continue to rise after pct, and the osta should at least help you retain muscle and maybe cut some fat.
 
YoungThor said:
When I first came to this forum I was pretty naive and was taking only 10mg of osta and I was even paranoid about what that was doing to my body. Now if I were to do it again I would start with 30mg at the least and work my way up to a higher dose. With you being on trt, I think you could try 50mg and see how that feels and tinker with the dose. This is an experimental time for sarms and one day we may look back on this era and laugh at the dosing protocols.
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Didn’t you say you experienced what you thought were liver sides from your Osta run?
 
JoePaul39 said:
Didn’t you say you experienced what you thought were liver sides from your Osta run?
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Yeah, but even during that time of paranoia there was always a part of me questioning if what I was feeling was really liver pain or some kind of muscle issue. The muscles in the area of my liver always were spasmodic and there was a very dull, swollen-like pain beneath them. It was strange and I have no blood work to give me any answers.
 
Chados said:
Yes but that was for 12 weeks I believe.. This is 4.
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I don’t see your point. Even though it’s 10x the dose, it won’t cause suppression because your running it for 1/3 the amount of time? Regardless, the fact is, ostarine can suppress you, not that it necessarily will in every situation.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
I don’t see your point. Even though it’s 10x the dose, it won’t cause suppression because your running it for 1/3 the amount of time? Regardless, the fact is, ostarine can suppress you, not that it necessarily will in every situation.
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Yeah, but Chados was taking clomid at the same time so that further confuses the issue. It’s hard to compare the study to his experience because they’re radically different. If I had to guess, I’d assume chados saw I rise in his test levels during that time, in spite of the fact that osta is suppressive.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
I don’t see your point. Even though it’s 10x the dose, it won’t cause suppression because your running it for 1/3 the amount of time? Regardless, the fact is, ostarine can suppress you, not that it necessarily will in every situation.
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Well longevity is often more important than dosage. I take 2gr test prop and quit vs running 100mg for 3 months and I'll get more shut down with the later.

Let's say I got suppressed but I controlled cortisol and prevented muscle waste vs being more shut down while not controlling cortisol I'd say I keep more muscle while being shutdown.
 
No offense, but I still don’t see your point. All I had said is that the recommended dosage of ostarine is arbitrary and that it is able to cause shutdown. Comparing length vs. dosage of cycles and strategies for maintaining muscle mass isn’t really relevant. I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying, I just don’t see how it relates to that original post of mine that you quoted.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
No offense, but I still don’t see your point. All I had said is that the recommended dosage of ostarine is arbitrary and that it is able to cause shutdown. Comparing length vs. dosage of cycles and strategies for maintaining muscle mass isn’t really relevant. I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying, I just don’t see how it relates to that original post of mine that you quoted.
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Your first post about it causing shutdown. I said that's 3 months not 4 weeks. That matter a lot in this situation. Taking 5 pills of dbol won't shut you down but taking 1 for 5 days might
 
I know what you’re saying. But it doesn’t relate to what I said. All I said was that it’s possible. Some people say it isn’t even possible, but it is. So nothing you’ve said in response to that is relevant.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
I know what you’re saying. But it doesn’t relate to what I said. All I said was that it’s possible. Some people say it isn’t even possible, but it is. So nothing you’ve said in response to that is relevant.
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Yeah apparently it is suppressive but some claim it doesn't cause it with right dosage and length. I don't think anyone said it has 0 possibility to suppress you
 
It's apparently suppressive but I've never noticed any feelings of suppression. Always stuck to 25mg, running it now for twelve weeks. I have clomid on hand for pct but to be honest if I'm feeling great I may not even use it. Ostarine is very mild at what it does.

My understanding is that higher doses simply do not yield better results but all clinical trials were done with like 3mg so not sure why people settled on 25mg.

I get that going by feel is seen as stupid by a lot of people on here but at the end of the day after 4 weeks on superdrol I feel lethargic as hell. No libido, no appetite, when I go to the toilet I feel like my insides are coming out, can't be arsed getting up let alone working out. After 12 weeks on ostarine I feel fine. Regardless of what's going on behind the scenes my body is telling me there is a difference.
 
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