Oratropin and achilled tendon

R-Mac

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I ruptured my achilled tendon and had surgery a little over a month ago, currently I am back in the gym about 3 days a week and have started physical therapy...anyways...I am thinking or running this, the more and more I read up on it, the more it sounds like a no brainer...has anyone had any experience with Oratropin after an achilles tendon injury?
 
There was another post I believe that was on the achilles.

I'd recommend the combination of Oratropin, PGH-t, & Cissus.

It's what I used to help a torn tendon and it worked wonders.

good luck
 
There was another post I believe that was on the achilles.

I'd recommend the combination of Oratropin, PGH-t, & Cissus.

It's what I used to help a torn tendon and it worked wonders.

good luck


ya I read your thread on your road to recovery, thanks bro..Ill give it a shot
 
I have some Achilles Tendon issues as well. I used to "run through the pain" but it wasn't the good pain :sad: I think I have mass amounts of scar tissue. I have to stretch them out multiple times a day!

Thinking of doing a Oratropin / Cissus stack maybe..

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
I have some Achilles Tendon issues as well. I used to "run through the pain" but it wasn't the good pain :sad: I think I have mass amounts of scar tissue. I have to stretch them out multiple times a day!

Thinking of doing a Oratropin / Cissus stack maybe..

Much Love,

Neoborn

Any idea when Oratropin would be available again? Currently backordered, and goes up to $220 from $180 once it is back in stock.
 
There was another post I believe that was on the achilles.

I'd recommend the combination of Oratropin, PGH-t, & Cissus.

It's what I used to help a torn tendon and it worked wonders.

good luck


Any replacement for PGH-t? I'm a bit leary of purchasing that based on the feedback and non-replies to feedback in their forum (and other forums).


I strained/hurt my shoulder this weekend (AGAIN, damnit!) while doing some demo work in my basement. Felt GREAT breaking out those 2x4s, but after my right shoulder was in trouble again (swinging sledge hammer, no doubt).
 
Any idea when Oratropin would be available again? Currently backordered, and goes up to $220 from $180 once it is back in stock.

I'll look into that for you. I'll pm you or reply here :)

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
I have word that it should be in this week or next. Better date to come.....

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
New update: ETA Friday next week - Monday / early following. Sorry we are at the mercy of the supplier :sad:

We still love you long time though :D and will keep you posted!

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
I have some Achilles Tendon issues as well. I used to "run through the pain" but it wasn't the good pain :sad: I think I have mass amounts of scar tissue. I have to stretch them out multiple times a day!

Thinking of doing a Oratropin / Cissus stack maybe..

Much Love,

Neoborn


Try some deep tissue and friction massage.

Sometimes love don't feel like it should.
 
I think it really needs ART but don't have the cash right at this moment.

Thanks for the advice,

Neoborn
 
my PGHT is taking forever...ordered like 16 days ago, I knew it would take long, but man ..I just wish it would show up SOON...anyways so I guess I am going to go with oratropin and supper cissus for now and add the PGHT in when it comes
 
my PGHT is taking forever...ordered like 16 days ago, I knew it would take long, but man ..I just wish it would show up SOON...anyways so I guess I am going to go with oratropin and supper cissus for now and add the PGHT in when it comes

Hello R,

I take it you ordered this from some innovative research company on the net? If so do you have a tracking number? If you are having issues please contact Customer Support at the number in the sticky.

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
Hello R,

I take it you ordered this from some innovative research company on the net? If so do you have a tracking number? If you are having issues please contact Customer Support at the number in the sticky.

Much Love,

Neoborn

Isn't PGH-t only sold by UniversalKits?

didn't know/think that the innovative company had PGH-t
 
Um um ahhhhhh...... you bring up a very valid point. It's late, I'm tired :D Good eye.

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
my PGHT is taking forever...ordered like 16 days ago, I knew it would take long, but man ..I just wish it would show up SOON...anyways so I guess I am going to go with oratropin and supper cissus for now and add the PGHT in when it comes

From reading on their forum, you have to be really patient when ordering from them; lately, patience might not even work... Hopefully everything's alright in Tampa.
 
ya I know you have to be patient, I knew that when I ordered it from UK, I wasnt putting up a customer service issue post..I am just saying that I dont think I am going to wait for it and I am going to start the Oratropin with the cissus I am running....I was looking for feedback on if I should do that or wait...since I havent run pght or orotropin before let alone together I was looking for advice on whether to wait or not...sorry I didnt quite spell that out :hammer:

so fella's... thoughts, start or wait?
 
ya I know you have to be patient, I knew that when I ordered it from UK, I wasnt putting up a customer service issue post..I am just saying that I dont think I am going to wait for it and I am going to start the Oratropin with the cissus I am running....I was looking for feedback on if I should do that or wait...since I havent run pght or orotropin before let alone together I was looking for advice on whether to wait or not...sorry I didnt quite spell that out :hammer:

so fella's... thoughts, start or wait?

Go ahead start with what you have. I got my PGH-T order from Universal Kits, but it did take a long time. The Oratrophin is the big healer.

What dosing plan are you going to use for the Oratrophin?
 
Werewolf,

Could something like IBE's Neurobalance be used?

It says on the website that it also increases HGH. Just curious if this might be away around waiting for the PGH-t.

HGH Increase
Along with controlling the firing of neurons, GABA also stimulates the anterior pituitary gland to produce Human Growth Hormone(HGH). HGH is produced, stored and secreted by the pituitary gland located at the base of the brain. As you advance in age, HGH is able to continue to be made and stored by the brain, however, the level of releasing HGH into the bloodstream decreases dramatically. This lack of circulation of HGH is the factor that scientists now believe is responsible for the tendency of older individuals to have increased difficulty losing body fat, early signs of aging, slowed cognitive function and muscle deterioration.
GABA signals the pituitary to naturally release HGH and increases circulating growth hormone by more than 5 times its normal levels (studies show a 550% increase in Growth Hormone levels). GABA is one of the most potent stimulators of growth hormone that has been discovered. HGH promotes the synthesis of protein (builds muscle) and the breakdown of fat (burns fat), and also helps to regulate the concentration of sugar in the blood (insulin regulation). The most amazing benefit is the change in body composition. In a 6 month HGH study, participants GAINED AN AVERAGE OF 8.8% LEAN MUSCLE MASS AND DECREASED BODYFAT BY 14.4% (without any change in diet or exercise). HGH has also been shown to significantly enhance athletic performance and endurance
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Werewolf,

Could something like IBE's Neurobalance be used?

It says on the website that it also increases HGH. Just curious if this might be away around waiting for the PGH-t.

.

Looks interesting, but I have never tried it. 3 to 5 grams of GABA before bed is also an alternative.
 
Go ahead start with what you have. I got my PGH-T order from Universal Kits, but it did take a long time. The Oratrophin is the big healer.

What dosing plan are you going to use for the Oratrophin?


thanks for teh feedback Wolf...I was planning on EOD, do you suggest I dose differently?
 
Go ahead start with what you have. I got my PGH-T order from Universal Kits, but it did take a long time. The Oratrophin is the big healer.

What dosing plan are you going to use for the Oratrophin?


thanks for the feedback Wolf...I was planning on EOD, do you suggest I dose differently?
 
For injury repair you can space it out further and do a half dose every 72 hours. Which is great because it makes one box last so much longer. I also dosed my before bed and had no problems.
 
For injury repair you can space it out further and do a half dose every 72 hours. Which is great because it makes one box last so much longer. I also dosed my before bed and had no problems.

I agree except I recommend between 72 and 96 hrs between dosing. IGF-1 sits on the receptor for 72 hrs and then Oratrophin releases over 48 hours. Before bed is not good since you will likey be real hunger about an hour after taking. Firefighter, you didn't have a hunger problem?
 
No, but I also work third shift and I get to bed at about 8:00 in the morning and due to having issues with hypoglycemia I always eat at about 6:00 am or so.
 
I agree except I recommend between 72 and 96 hrs between dosing. IGF-1 sits on the receptor for 72 hrs and then Oratrophin releases over 48 hours. Before bed is not good since you will likey be real hunger about an hour after taking. Firefighter, you didn't have a hunger problem?


so when would be ideal to dose at morning/night on an empty stomach and then wait 1/2 hr to hr to eat
 
I agree except I recommend between 72 and 96 hrs between dosing. IGF-1 sits on the receptor for 72 hrs and then Oratrophin releases over 48 hours. Before bed is not good since you will likey be real hunger about an hour after taking. Firefighter, you didn't have a hunger problem?

are you saying a half or full dose every 72-96
 
are you saying a half or full dose every 72-96

Half dose is what I use except during first week of PCT when I go full dose. I use Oratrophin to heal a tendon injury in my knee back when it was only half strength with excellent results. I really don't think double dosing could speed up healing much from that result.

I would go full dose for first week after an injury or surgery. The PGH-T also raises IGF-1 natural output.
 
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