OralTR3ST as a test base vs Dermatrest (half-life) questio

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I'm starting a DMZ cycle soon and have my SERM and on cycle and pct supps, but I've read TR3ST has a very short half life (around 2 hours) which makes it seem like a very poor test base. I also read that DERMATREST would be more solid as a test base because it has a longer half life from being absorbed. Is this true? I was thinking of keeping my oral TR3ST as a pre workout and getting DERMATREST as a solid test base should it prove to keep my man parts and energy more stable.
 
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actually I believe the half life to be closer to 45 mins.. orally. and the topical version may continue to release actives for about 8 hrs. I would say that IME the topical version is about 50% more effective. yet it takes a lot more to get like effects. if you take 50 mgs orally pre work out the aggression and strength you get are far more realized than 50 mgs topical how ever the effects orally are very short lived. so short infact you would have to eat the stuff all day long to reach a saturation point. topical you can get away with single doses per day.
 
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I'm starting a DMZ cycle soon and have my SERM and on cycle and pct supps, but I've read TR3ST has a very short half life (around 2 hours) which makes it seem like a very poor test base. I also read that DERMATREST would be more solid as a test base because it has a longer half life from being absorbed. Is this true? I was thinking of keeping my oral TR3ST as a pre workout and getting DERMATREST as a solid test base should it prove to keep my man parts and energy more stable.
Yeah dose oral pre-workout and Dtrest the way you have in mind.
 

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actually I believe the half life to be closer to 45 mins.. orally. and the topical version may continue to release actives for about 8 hrs. I would say that IME the topical version is about 50% more effective. yet it takes a lot more to get like effects. if you take 50 mgs orally pre work out the aggression and strength you get are far more realized than 50 mgs topical how ever the effects orally are very short lived. so short infact you would have to eat the stuff all day long to reach a saturation point. topical you can get away with single doses per day.
Thanks. I'm already using Formeron as my AI which is topical so how would I dose two topicals since I'm sure remnants of the first will still be on my forearms by the time the second is applied and there are limited spots to rub them in. What would you say is good dosing protocols with it if I'm using it as a test base?
 
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Thanks. I'm already using Formeron as my AI which is topical so how would I dose two topicals since I'm sure remnants of the first will still be on my forearms by the time the second is applied and there are limited spots to rub them in. What would you say is good dosing protocols with it if I'm using it as a test base?
Use gloves instead that way you dnt contaminate everyone else around you by having some on your forearms.

If you have women/kids at the house you have to be extra careful with transdermal supps.
 

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Use gloves instead that way you dnt contaminate everyone else around you by having some on your forearms.

If you have women/kids at the house you have to be extra careful with transdermal supps.
Uhm, like latex gloves? I thought using your forearms was ideal because it let some get in through there and also where you rubbed it in. Afterwards, wouldn't I just wash my forearms off and would be good to touch things?
 
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I like to apply one product to my shoulders and upper arms chest. and the other product right on the nipples. I don't typically rotate application spots.
don't wash off for at least an hr after application. if you have family, makes sure you cover up the application sites. I know this sounds weird.. but I like to use either the dropper wand or a bic pen to rub the product in. no gloves needed.
 
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Uhm, like latex gloves? I thought using your forearms was ideal because it let some get in through there and also where you rubbed it in. Afterwards, wouldn't I just wash my forearms off and would be good to touch things?
Yes disposable gloves and id rather not have any residue left behind on my forearm even if it's washed off. I don't use trest but I'm using another transdermal which I like applying on my shoulders. can't really reach that with my forearms.

The main thing for me is using the most out of the product. Washing off the forearm is product that couldve been applied somewhere else instead of the sink.
 
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Always had good luck with TDs spread on my clavicle area.

Whats the kick in time for oral tr3st? How far before gym time should I take it. I usuallh feel strong effects of preworkouts in 5-10 minutes, not the advertised 30min preworkout on the labels.
 

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Lots of great info in here! I thought the half life of oral Trest was way longer but looks like I'm way off! Good to know! Should I dose oral Trest a few hours after dmz to negate the negative sides? And then a bit pre workout of course? Or should the whole dose be taken pre?
 

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Lots of great info in here! I thought the half life of oral Trest was way longer but looks like I'm way off! Good to know! Should I dose oral Trest a few hours after dmz to negate the negative sides? And then a bit pre workout of course? Or should the whole dose be taken pre?
Asking the same questions I'm wondering lol
 

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Haha well hopefully we get some answers!
 
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Lots of great info in here! I thought the half life of oral Trest was way longer but looks like I'm way off! Good to know! Should I dose oral Trest a few hours after dmz to negate the negative sides? And then a bit pre workout of course? Or should the whole dose be taken pre?
Well I heard that Celtic labs is working on a longer ester for oral treat, so half life will be longer. The general census would be to take a compound split over the day to keep it stable in blood and not randomly spiking, of course the half life is small though.
 
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Lots of great info in here! I thought the half life of oral Trest was way longer but looks like I'm way off! Good to know! Should I dose oral Trest a few hours after dmz to negate the negative sides? And then a bit pre workout of course? Or should the whole dose be taken pre?
I personally like to split the different hormones up. each hormone has its own needs to operate and breakdown via enzymes and whatnot. so yes do not take them together .. give them a minimum of 15 mins but preferably more like 60-90 mins is optimal imo. as for half life you guys need to remember that once you reach the half life point, in this case 45-60 mins there is still half a dose left in the blood stream.. and again in 45-60 more mins there will be half that dose.. and so on, until its finally gone. so if you take oral trest every 3 hrs its probably good enough to reach a saturation point.

ok so .. here is the thing, if your on DMZ which has a much longer half life.. you should probably forgo the problematic dosing issues and just take a bolus dose of 50 mgs pre work out. as you will already be saturated with DMZ ..you can use the trest for strait power and aggression pre work out.. and it is really favorable in the dept.
 

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I personally like to split the different hormones up. each hormone has its own needs to operate and breakdown via enzymes and whatnot. so yes do not take them together .. give them a minimum of 15 mins but preferably more like 60-90 mins is optimal imo. as for half life you guys need to remember that once you reach the half life point, in this case 45-60 mins there is still half a dose left in the blood stream.. and again in 45-60 more mins there will be half that dose.. and so on, until its finally gone. so if you take oral trest every 3 hrs its probably good enough to reach a saturation point.

ok so .. here is the thing, if your on DMZ which has a much longer half life.. you should probably forgo the problematic dosing issues and just take a bolus dose of 50 mgs pre work out. as you will already be saturated with DMZ ..you can use the trest for strait power and aggression pre work out.. and it is really favorable in the dept.
great info! thank you! that would help with splitting the dosing of the individual hormones as well! i'll give that a try and see how it goes.
 

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