OT IMO opinion would not have a huge effect in terms of muscle gain on it's own especially for someone your size ,I would either run the SD first or like same old said stack it with a none methyl.same_old said:3 weeks of OT isnt enough. the gains dont even come on good until then. plus it's leaner gains than SD, which would make a SD finish kind of backwards.
cycle doesnt make any sense to me. they are both decent steroids - do one or the other, or stack one with a non-methyl (i recommend test!)
M-Trn/SD/TST cycle.ripped218 said:OT IMO opinion would not have a huge effect in terms of muscle gain on it's own especially for someone your size ,I would either run the SD first or like same old said stack it with a none methyl.
Tell us whats available to you and we could recommend what would stack well with what you proposed.fritzer said:ya only prob is in canada cant get mega-trn or tst...
I have never run it so i am only going by what i have read,but you are probably right, the only thing i was thinking was he should run the SD first as OT is a drier coumpound and would help solidify the gains and make them more retainable.Apowerz6 said:Hey ripped I beg to differ about the OT, It does seem to be kick starter, but alone it would be a decent run, for someone who is not really experienced, after all he would see gains in the range of 5-10 lbs and not with water retention like Dbol would cause. I know that is not a whole lot, but IMO it would be easier to maintain.
Or you could always run Test since it works BEST!!!!
i'm 280lbs and 60mg tbol for 4 weeks put 13lbs on me (as a kickstart to test/EQ which i didnt get much out of until weeks 4-5)ripped218 said:OT IMO opinion would not have a huge effect in terms of muscle gain on it's own especially for someone your size ,I would either run the SD first or like same old said stack it with a none methyl.
wow you gained 3% BF since your first post. man, you really must have let yourself go since yesterday.fritzer said:the experience made me go from 21 years old, 230lbs 8% BF naturally, to a dumbass 225 12% BF after all the drugs they shot me up with, cortisone, prednisone, etc ,etc ,etc.
Honestly, 3 months ago when i was 100% natural i was veiny like a freakin horse, so massive at 230 (18.5 inch arms... now 17) i could train and train and i wouldnt get tired... as soon as i hit tren 1 or 2 sets and i felt like i was going to die...
pardon me brother. you were unclear as to your reasoning, and pinphobia runs rampant on these boards.fritzer said:... so excuse me if i am looking for other options other than pinning same old...same old....same old BS with you
and if i get a vote, i go for 4-ad TD and tbol. SD is too rough if you ask me. dont forget your omega 3's and i strongly recommend running those vietnamese hookers throughout your cycle, just to be safe.ripped218 said:Fritzer like i said in the other thread i would run SD at a low dose for a front load like you said ,then run the OT,with a trans 4-ad throughout.So kinda like your original cycle but minerly tweaked.
I prefer the thai hookers myself during a cycle.:icon_lol:same_old said:and if i get a vote, i go for 4-ad TD and tbol. SD is too rough if you ask me. dont forget your omega 3's and i strongly recommend running those vietnamese hookers throughout your cycle, just to be safe.