Oral Trenavar verse transdermal trest

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How do these 2 compounds compare in terms of which is better to add muscle with? Which is more useful to cut with? Which one is known to have more side effects? And which one is more likely to cause gyno than the other?
 
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I’ve never used Trest, but I have Tvar.

You can bulk and cut with anything but most people don’t lose weight on Trest (fat yes but not bodyweight) but they definitely can on tren - Tren is tougher to add lbs on by all anecdote. So let that be your guide if you have no other preferences.

Trest you have methylestrogen to control AND prolactin increases for most, while Tren if you control prolactin you’re probably going to be fine (looking at these in isolation; you add a bunch of wet compounds you obviously need to control that aromatization too).

Other than harder to control gyno, and longterm libido/sexual side effects some Trest users have, users generally report feeling great on it. Nobody says that about Tren. Anger, paranoia, anxiety, wired feeling.

Tren might produce more strength and will produce a harder drier look. Trest likely more muscle size and fullness.
 
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I’ve never used Trest, but I have Tvar.

You can bulk and cut with anything but most people don’t lose weight on Trest (fat yes but not bodyweight) but they definitely can on tren - Tren is tougher to add lbs on by all anecdote. So let that be your guide if you have no other preferences.

Trest you have methylestrogen to control AND prolactin increases for most, while Tren if you control prolactin you’re probably going to be fine (looking at these in isolation; you add a bunch of wet compounds you obviously need to control that aromatization too).

Other than harder to control gyno, and longterm libido/sexual side effects some Trest users have, users generally report feeling great on it. Nobody says that about Tren. Anger, paranoia, anxiety, wired feeling.

Tren might produce more strength and will produce a harder drier look. Trest likely more muscle size and fullness.
^^ Agree 100%. ^^
 

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I’ve never used Trest, but I have Tvar.

You can bulk and cut with anything but most people don’t lose weight on Trest (fat yes but not bodyweight) but they definitely can on tren - Tren is tougher to add lbs on by all anecdote. So let that be your guide if you have no other preferences.

Trest you have methylestrogen to control AND prolactin increases for most, while Tren if you control prolactin you’re probably going to be fine (looking at these in isolation; you add a bunch of wet compounds you obviously need to control that aromatization too).

Other than harder to control gyno, and longterm libido/sexual side effects some Trest users have, users generally report feeling great on it. Nobody says that about Tren. Anger, paranoia, anxiety, wired feeling.

Tren might produce more strength and will produce a harder drier look. Trest likely more muscle size and fullness.
By tren I assume you mean Trenavar (I.e. Trendione) the prohormone not actual Tren steroid it converts to?
 

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More likely to get “Trensomnia” from Trenavar too I assume since it converts to tren?
 
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By tren I assume you mean Trenavar (I.e. Trendione) the prohormone not actual Tren steroid it converts to?
Correct, I have used OL’s Trendione/Trenavar/Tvar product TR3N at 120-210mg per day over 8 weeks, with some 4andro and EpiAndro (6 caps of AndroFactory Bulk Up) a few years ago.

Trenavar souds terrible.
Much like I assume it’s target compound trenbolone, it’s about results. It is not for fun, it’s not the long road, it’s not low sides unless you run a lower stacking dose like 90mg. It’s full send.

More likely to get “Trensomnia” from Trenavar too I assume since it converts to tren?
No actually - trendione has a fairly short half life like most orals, so you can keep the dose to earlier and the day and still get solid sleep.

In my opinion it would the only reason for anyone to consider it over actual Tren Ace. It was cool as a legal PH, but now it’s banned and old it’s way more expensive than Tren, which is dirt cheap and never faked, and as easy to get as test. You need bottles of Trendione but just one bottle of Tren Ace for the same effects likely. They’re both scheduled compounds in America.

Would an AI control “methylestrogen” @Hyde ?
My non-educated understanding from Trest user here on AM is an AI is a must and definitely helps. I don’t know how much it controls the methyl estrogen but it limits at least any normal aromatization in the body, lowering the estrogen side of the equation overall.
 

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Correct, I have used OL’s Trendione/Trenavar/Tvar product TR3N at 120-210mg per day over 8 weeks, with some 4andro and EpiAndro (6 caps of AndroFactory Bulk Up) a few years ago.



Much like I assume it’s target compound trenbolone, it’s about results. It is not for fun, it’s not the long road, it’s not low sides unless you run a lower stacking dose like 90mg. It’s full send.



No actually - trendione has a fairly short half life like most orals, so you can keep the dose to earlier and the day and still get solid sleep.

In my opinion it would the only reason for anyone to consider it over actual Tren Ace. It was cool as a legal PH, but now it’s banned and old it’s way more expensive than Tren, which is dirt cheap and never faked, and as easy to get as test. You need bottles of Trendione but just one bottle of Tren Ace for the same effects likely. They’re both scheduled compounds in America.



My non-educated understanding from Trest user here on AM is an AI is a must and definitely helps. I don’t know how much it controls the methyl estrogen but it limits at least any normal aromatization in the body, lowering the estrogen side of the equation overall.
Thanks for the detailed Trenavar description. Im gonna pass on this compound.
 
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Be prepared for that high estro on TD trest though. 100mg a day (high dose but a lot of people run it at this) and literally the nips were on fire for a few days until I got it back down. Definitely recommend a legit AI like exem. That being said, you will feel amazing while on it.
 

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Dienolone is great. Not to wet. Low prolactin and estrogen sides, unless you go over 100 mg transdermal per day. I've taken trendione and I think dienolone is stronger for strength and size gainz. Trestolone is serious stuff. People gain 25 lbs in 8 weeks but estrogen sides are very likely. A SERM on trestolone is almost a necessity to prevent gyno
 
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Currently on BOGO, JS.

 
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Have you considered Dien TD?
Tried your Ursa Major last night and this morning (shipped fast). Very much impressed with everything. Obviously price and shipping were great, but so was the protective packaging, quality of the bottles & droppers, and I really appreciated how easy it is to measure and apply - AND HOW FAST IT DRIES.

Doesn’t leave me slimy or take 5 minutes to apply like most transdermals, and it’s a huge win for the user. Thank you
 
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Tried your Ursa Major last night and this morning (shipped fast). Very much impressed with everything. Obviously price and shipping were great, but so was the protective packaging, quality of the bottles & droppers, and I really appreciated how easy it is to measure and apply - AND HOW FAST IT DRIES.

Doesn’t leave me slimy or take 5 minutes to apply like most transdermals, and it’s a huge win for the user. Thank you
Thank you for the kind words! 😊
 

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