Opinions wanted, Epistane w/ RAD 140 stack

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I do not want to run the two together as a stack,

Should I do Epistane 30-40mg for 4-5 weeks then RAD 140 for 6 weeks at 20mg?

I am not trying to used them together, and want opinions on which to run first and next.

RAD 140 first, then Epistane? Or...
Epistane first, Then RAD-140?

I have used both compounds separately before.
 
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Are you going to run anything with it? On either you will eventually be producing no estrogen and that equates to feeling like garbage and eventually erectile dysfunction if you stay on long enough.

Epistane is much stronger mg vs mg so if I was going to use them I'd probably start with 20mg of rad and work up to 30 and then 30mg epistane, probably won't need to go higher then that on epistane but I think 50 was the highest I ever went
 
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Are you going to run anything with it? On either you will eventually be producing no estrogen and that equates to feeling like garbage and eventually erectile dysfunction if you stay on long enough.

Epistane is much stronger mg vs mg so if I was going to use them I'd probably start with 20mg of rad and work up to 30 and then 30mg epistane, probably won't need to go higher then that on epistane but I think 50 was the highest I ever went
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I've ran a short epistane cycle before and ran into zero issues. I was happy with the overall feeling, no PCT. I ran Tr3n from OL UK for 6 1/2 weeks and began epistane around week 4. I am going with the same brand for epistane (Brawn)

I had 2 bottles of RAD that I ran from Narrows Labs (DMSO + 15MG of RAD per mL) I got caps this time.

Running both together might be overkill...
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Pick one or the other….and then pct.
Unless you’re on TRT?

If going with the sarm I’d say 8-10 weeks.
Not on TRT.
Whatcha think about 5 weeks of EPI and starting RAD immediately after?

Ran PCT the last time I did Epi, tbh felt more joint pains during PCT than while I was on Epi.
 
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I do have cialis coming in, 20mgs,
I've ran a short epistane cycle before and ran into zero issues. I was happy with the overall feeling, no PCT. I ran Tr3n from OL UK for 6 1/2 weeks and began epistane around week 4. I am going with the same brand for epistane (Brawn)

I had 2 bottles of RAD that I ran from Narrows Labs (DMSO + 15MG of RAD per mL) I got caps this time.

Running both together might be overkill...
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Cailis will do zero if you crush your estrogen. I'm not sure why you think Cialis would be a replacement for a estrogen source
 
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Cailis will do zero if you crush your estrogen. I'm not sure why you think Cialis would be a replacement for a estrogen source
That's not what I was stating, the ED statement was brought up is why I brought up Cialis.
I'm not planning on adding exogenous estrogen...
 
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At the end of the day you can do whatever you want. I dont personally like the idea of running anything solo except testosterone or low dose dbol. I don't like stacking things without a source of testosterone or estrogen to maintain energy, sexual function, brain and heart health ect. If you don't care Bout health or feeling good then sky's the limit. Can you stack them, absolutely, you can stack anything, can you run them solo, absolutely, you can run anything. It's a personal choice
 
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That's not what I was stating, the ED statement was brought up is why I brought up Cialis.
I'm not planning on adding exogenous estrogen...
Cailis will not make your dick work if you crash estrogen......
 
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And I'm not telling you to take exogenous estrogen, I'm saying add something that convert to estrogen, like a little dermacrine or 4 andro
 
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At the end of the day you can do whatever you want. I dont personally like the idea of running anything solo except testosterone or low dose dbol. I don't like stacking things without a source of testosterone or estrogen to maintain energy, sexual function, brain and heart health ect. If you don't care Bout health or feeling good then sky's the limit. Can you stack them, absolutely, you can stack anything, can you run them solo, absolutely, you can run anything. It's a personal choice
Exactly right, that is totally respectable...

I was only asking you what order I should run them in.
Epistane first, then RAD 2nd, or
RAD first then Epistane after.
 
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Exactly right, that is totally respectable...

I was only asking what you order I should run them in.
Epistane first, then RAD 2nd, or
RAD first then Epistane after.
Rad 1st epistane 2nd
 
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Rad 1st epistane 2nd
Just because epistane is stronger, so you want to finish your cycle at it's strongest otherwise results will go downhill if you start strong and finish on weaker compounds
 
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Cailis will not make your dick work if you crash estrogen......
Let's be real, that's the least of my concern. Again to be honest I want to use it as a blood flow product, not necessarily for my cock.
 
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Not on TRT.
Whatcha think about 5 weeks of EPI and starting RAD immediately after?

Ran PCT the last time I did Epi, tbh felt more joint pains during PCT than while I was on Epi.
Your test will most likely be crashed and you’ll feel lousy after 5 weeks of a methyl….Then you’ll replace that with something that doesn’t convert to estrogen or dht and really be setting up for disaster…
 
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All I’m saying is my first encounter with hormones was Epistane at 40-50mg and my bench went up 50-60 lbs in 3-4 weeks on a diet of Trix cereal and neglect from women.
Haha ayeee
That's my problem at the moment. Deciding which to finish first...and what to continue with.
 
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Let's be real, that's the least of my concern. Again to be honest I want to use it as a blood flow product, not necessarily for my cock.
If that's the case, get a good stim free pump product and add a little sodium and vegetable glycerin. Will get a awesome pump in the gym. Take low dose daily cailis, 5-7.5mg.
 
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Lol
All I’m saying is my first encounter with hormones was Epistane at 40-50mg and my bench went up 50-60 lbs in 3-4 weeks on a diet of Trix cereal and neglect from women.
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If that's the case, get a good stim free pump product and add a little sodium and vegetable glycerin. Will get a awesome pump in the gym. Take low dose daily cailis, 5-7.5mg.
I know a place that has a great stim free pump on crazy sale haha
 
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Your test will most likely be crashed and you’ll feel lousy after 5 weeks of a methyl….Then you’ll replace that with something that doesn’t convert to estrogen or dht and really be setting up for disaster…
Hmm...
Understood, entirely. I want to stay real about it, I'm open to discussions about it and pretty creative when it comes to these topics.

In a nutshell my test will be crashed...and I won't be backing it up with any exogenous test, if I run RAD afterward I would assume my hormones will not be back to an optimal state and I hate to sound uneducated but I would not want to replace any endogenous test that I produce with something "synthetic" like rad.
 
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Even if you start with Rad, a real dosage of that for 6 weeks should be, most likely will be, suppressive…and then a week into epistane will be awful….

Stop being greedy….Pick one, stack it with a 4 andro or something, like mentioned…Crush your nutrition and lifts…And then Continue to kill it during pct…
 
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Even if you start with Rad, a real dosage of that for 6 weeks should be, most likely will be, suppressive…and then a week into epistane will be awful….

Stop being greedy….Pick one, stack it with a 4 andro or something, like mentioned…Crush your nutrition and lifts…And then Continue to kill it during pct…
Good advice. ^^^
 
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Even if you start with Rad, a real dosage of that for 6 weeks should be, most likely will be, suppressive…and then a week into epistane will be awful….

Stop being greedy….Pick one, stack it with a 4 andro or something, like mentioned…Crush your nutrition and lifts…And then Continue to kill it during pct…
So far I'm leaning on Epi first. Since I do know from prior experience that it was definitely stronger, I did have RAD 140 for 10 weeks with minimal side effects.
Epistane first...

Kickstart it with that, my body tolerates and accepted epistane very well the previous time.
 
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So far I'm leaning on Epi first. Since I do know from prior experience that it was definitely stronger, I did have RAD 140 for 10 weeks with minimal side effects.
Epistane first...

Kickstart it with that, my body tolerates and accepted epistane very well the previous time.
I'm with the Rad dude above ^.

If I could tolerate Epistane that well, I'd up the dosage a little and run it on a solo cycle (although I'd probably add a "base", personally).
Epistane is usually a GREAT product for guys that tolerate it well.
 
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Epistane and dermacrine for 6 weeks would be my choice, I have some RAD 140 but I dunno about these sarms man, Epistane has worked so well for me and many others.
 

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