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Opinions on my M-Sten/Epistane/Stano cycle

ChefJoey

ChefJoey

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Lookin like this guys:

IMl M-Sten: 20/20/20/20 (may only do 3 weeks as I'm stacking it)

Epistane: 30/30/30/30/30/30

Stano: 600/600/600/600/600/600

PCT:

Clomid: 50/50/50/50

daa: 3G ed until gone

Erase: 0/0/3/3/2/2/1/1


Cycle support and multi as usual. Calories will be slightly above maintainence.
 
Will also be running Inhibit-P alongside as I've heard of people getting prolactin issues with Epi (mainly lactating)
 
You might be very tired. I'm not sure if that would be enough stano to offset the lethargy. Msten and Epi knocked me on my butt. Seems maybe I talked to you in this already though so if it was you pardon me:-)
 
tinytony said:
You might be very tired. I'm not sure if that would be enough stano to offset the lethargy. Msten and Epi knocked me on my butt. Seems maybe I talked to you in this already though so if it was you pardon me:-)
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Yea I had a feeling you would be one of the first to comment lol the only concern I have is maybe it is too much?
 
Speaking strictly from personal experience, I ran Msten as high as 40mg without real lethargy. Epi at 30mg definitely, absolutely made me a zombie. The Stano'll help, but you will definitely be experiencing some "Nap time now" periods of your day.
 
Wilko said:
Speaking strictly from personal experience, I ran Msten as high as 40mg without real lethargy. Epi at 30mg definitely, absolutely made me a zombie. The Stano'll help, but you will definitely be experiencing some "Nap time now" periods of your day.
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Yeah the combo scares me lol but I was coming of anxiety meds and so everything was more tiring and more depressing. But I'm off and have adapted and feel better than ever. Maybe I could handle a stack like that again
 
Its the crazies running Epi at 50mg or 60mg that scare me. I'd rather inject a solid gram of test e into my left testicle than try functioning at 60mg of Epi.
 
Nay for me on that stack. No need to even stack either one with the other. You can stack either one with stano which should be nice. I did Epi 6 weeks and on week two added stano for 8 weeks. Best cycle to date.
 
halfhuman said:
If u end up doing it, you should log and ill def follow lol
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Yea I'm wondering if its an overkill. I have Epi burning a whole in my pocket lol I'm just worried ill be a non-responder to Epi and waste a cycle but I suppose that may be a silly reason. I just only cycle once a year and want it to be a good one obviously
 
If so, I would definitely up the M Sten dosage.
 
Just finished m-sten sides became noticeable at week five and I stopped.(was going to do six weeks) They were intense and I had a good dosage of support supplements. Taking 20mg a day. I probably wouldn't up 20mg unless it was stand alone.
 
Lhns2 said:
Just finished m-sten sides became noticeable at week five and I stopped.(was going to do six weeks) They were intense and I had a good dosage of support supplements. Taking 20mg a day. I probably wouldn't up 20mg unless it was stand alone.
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What particular sides you speaking about?
 
Blood pressure sky high almost felt like puking most of the day and light headed. But was side free until week five.
 
ChefJoey said:
Whats lean-cuts?
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It's from AndroFactory. It's just like androlean but with different delivery system. Here's a bit if their write-up; LEAN-CUT - TIGHTER! HARDER! FASTER!
The anabolic effects, anti-catabolic and thermogenic power of 11-DHEA and 7-DHEA come together in ANDRO FACTORY's Advanced DHEA Complex in LEAN-CUT; both having minimal androgenic and estrogenic activity. (1-3)
The Strongest Legal method of a natural conversion to Anabolic Steroids. LEAN-CUT paves your way to a flatter stomach, tighter muscles and reduced bloating. With ANDRO FACTORY's added signature Cycle Protection and Recovery blend (CP+R) all synergistically balanced, brings a new player in the race to lean muscle mass and a harder leaner body.

I have two bottles and running it with my Hdrol next month.
 
halfhuman said:
It's from AndroFactory. It's just like androlean but with different delivery system. Here's a bit if their write-up; LEAN-CUT - TIGHTER! HARDER! FASTER!
The anabolic effects, anti-catabolic and thermogenic power of 11-DHEA and 7-DHEA come together in ANDRO FACTORY's Advanced DHEA Complex in LEAN-CUT; both having minimal androgenic and estrogenic activity. (1-3)
The Strongest Legal method of a natural conversion to Anabolic Steroids. LEAN-CUT paves your way to a flatter stomach, tighter muscles and reduced bloating. With ANDRO FACTORY's added signature Cycle Protection and Recovery blend (CP+R) all synergistically balanced, brings a new player in the race to lean muscle mass and a harder leaner body.

I have two bottles and running it with my Hdrol next month.
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Sounds interesting but aren't the andro products a fortune?
 
halfhuman said:
When primordial had them yes. But this is AndroFactory. They sell for about $90 per bottle and they have a discount code right now for 30%off.
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Might have to look into that. Care to PM me the code/site?

by the way, decided to drop the Epi. Don't see much extra benefit running it along with MSten
 
ChefJoey said:
Might have to look into that. Care to PM me the code/site?

by the way, decided to drop the Epi. Don't see much extra benefit running it along with MSten
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I got you.

That's good. There was no need to stack the two, especially it was to toxic to do so.
 
Im on my last day of Msten/Stano/Trenzone. I've been running the Msten at 40mg ed for week 4. Stano at 600mg throughout. I had a serious fight with lethargy during week 2. The gains from the Msten are great, but after I crossed the 20mg zone the sides got harsh. Back pumps, forearm pumps, calf pumps. Felt like my left calf locked up on me for 4 days at the beginning of week 3. Back pumps only allow me to be on my feet for a couple hours at a time before I absolutely have to sit and take the weight off. Been running Inhibit P throughout, and gonna run it through PCT for fear of prolactin. Read a thread recently of a guy that ran Msten around 40mg and had minor lactation half way through PCT. In defense of running Msten at that high of a dose, I stalled out half way through this cycle for a week and a half(no gains, no weight), I got mad and made the bump to 40mg and boom; I was back baby! Started cycle at 174lb weighin in at 191lb!! PRs all over
 
Damn more than 20 scares me. Nice gains though. Weird that prolactin was related, I'm gyno prone and this pct I have Exemestane ralox. Perfect and second week in, feel much better than my fifth week of msten haha. Also taking DAA.
 
Lhns2 said:
Damn more than 20 scares me. Nice gains though. Weird that prolactin was related, I'm gyno prone and this pct I have Exemestane ralox. Perfect and second week in, feel much better than my fifth week of msten haha. Also taking DAA.
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I know, right. I cant say that I completely understand the link btween the Msten and the prolactin, but I have faith in the guy and when he said it happened to him I bought my second bottle of Inhibit P for PCT. I used the first bottle on cycle because of the Trenazone. That's a solid PCT your running. That's funny that you feel better than when on cycle. My hats off to you! I did make some substantial gains thanks to Msten, thanks to the Stano and Trenazone they are rock hard. 40mgs of Msten is not that bad. Like I said the pumps are harsh at times, but manageable. The extra gains are totally worth it.
 
well I had been having numerous discussions with some friends on another forum and I had narrowed it down to 3 choices either Super-DMZ 2.0, M-Sten/Epi/Stano, or M-Sten solo. After a lot of back and forth I had a few friends convince me SDMZ would be the best choice. I had originally bought it last summer and planned to use it but something came up. Since then I decided to overcomplicate it by stacking a bunch of stuff. Decided to say screw it and stick with what I had planned almost a year ago. I know it seems abrupt but it was my first choice originally
 
ELo said:
Sounds good to me, esp. if you already own a bottle!
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Yea ive really been back and forth for a couple weeks and a friend just offered to buy my Epi off me at nearly twice what I paid which pretty much made up my mind for me
 
ELo said:
I know, right. I cant say that I completely understand the link btween the Msten and the prolactin, but I have faith in the guy and when he said it happened to him I bought my second bottle of Inhibit P for PCT. I used the first bottle on cycle because of the Trenazone. That's a solid PCT your running. That's funny that you feel better than when on cycle. My hats off to you! I did make some substantial gains thanks to Msten, thanks to the Stano and Trenazone they are rock hard. 40mgs of Msten is not that bad. Like I said the pumps are harsh at times, but manageable. The extra gains are totally worth it.
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Well hopefully your pct goes well. I'm going to run msten in bulking during December, well see how well it does at 40mg. I was getting head and jaw pumps when I ate haha. Glad to know your experiences thanks for sharing!
 
ChefJoey said:
Yea ive really been back and forth for a couple weeks and a friend just offered to buy my Epi off me at nearly twice what I paid which pretty much made up my mind for me
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I know that's right. Run that log when you start, Im in.
Lhns2 said:
Well hopefully your pct goes well. I'm going to run msten in bulking during December, well see how well it does at 40mg. I was getting head and jaw pumps when I ate haha. Glad to know your experiences thanks for sharing!
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Right on man, I fully recommend going up to 40mgs. As long as its done responsibly. The pumps were the worst for about 2 days after bumping the dose, still totally manageable. Lots of taurine! I gained 17lbs and maybe 1%BF. It was a fairly dirty bulk for me but the stano and trenazone kept me pretty lean. The strength was out of this world! Beginning of week 3, I put up 315lbs 3times on barbell flat bench, waited 2 minutes and then put up 335lbs once! I was using 650lbs on leg press for my working sets!! Those are serious numbers, for me anyways. Hit me PM if you wanna talk about it.
 
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