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dustin06MR

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I have these products and I am looking to get bigger, with a cut on my next cycle. I am going to put alot of planning into this one, and it will all start right here with the feedback i recieve. Heres what i have to work with:
-1 Havoc
-1 M-drol
-1 S-Drol
-1 D Stianozol (phera)

Also, i know PCT will need to be spot on, so if you have suggestions for that, feel free. Let me know what dosing you would run, etc... for ON and PCT.
Ive ran 2 cycles, and done alot of research. never used SD but it just sounds like the best way to get big. Thanks
 
What have u run before? What was ur pct?

Cutting and getting bigger is hard to do... Usually u do one or the other.

But diet is key too. So I will ask what's ur normal diet like?
 
Liftingstud said:
What have u run before? What was ur pct?

Cutting and getting bigger is hard to do... Usually u do one or the other.

But diet is key too. So I will ask what's ur normal diet like?
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i forgot one compund... X-Tren from CEL also...
now for your questions, 2 years ago i ran a sci-fit H-bomb4 and TZ-3 stack, was very uneducated on PH/Ps then, but still got pretty jacked. No pct then (dumbass) I just finished a Havoc cycle, and its in my signature. I am running BBS complete PCT, Diesel Test Hard Core along with normal supps for PCT. Its weeks 2 for PCT, and im planning for ahead. As far as this cycle, im planning on stepping it up a notch, hence the SD clones. I just found your M-drol/PPlex log, and will be folowing it, and might want to try the same. My diet is usually right at 4000 cal/a day, 340-380g protein w/shakes. high carbs. So diet is very sufficient for gaining. i havent lost a pound yet from my havoc cycle, or strength. From what ive read, a SERM will probably be needed for the cycle i am planning here.
 
im interested to see how well teh BBS pct works for you. as UK guy, i've only just heard of it
 
mark118 said:
im interested to see how well teh BBS pct works for you. as UK guy, i've only just heard of it
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so far, at the beginning of week 2 i feel pretty good. first few days i was pretty sore in my joints, and felt pretty sluggish and blah. My weight is holding and so is my strength though. ill be aadding to the log in my signature if you want to follow.
 
If u have not run sd or phera solo do that. Trust me, what I ran is not something for a person that has a few cycles under there belt. I would suggest run each solo, see how u react, then and only then look at a bridge or kickstart.

Plus u said u want a lean stack... Phera and sd stack is good for a bulk.

Maybe also look at epi stacked with tren. I have run that and it was very very solid. Great strength gains, good lean weight and pretty easy pct. But def start using SERMs. They r way better than that OTC stuff.
 
Liftingstud said:
If u have not run sd or phera solo do that. Trust me, what I ran is not something for a person that has a few cycles under there belt. I would suggest run each solo, see how u react, then and only then look at a bridge or kickstart.

Plus u said u want a lean stack... Phera and sd stack is good for a bulk.

Maybe also look at epi stacked with tren. I have run that and it was very very solid. Great strength gains, good lean weight and pretty easy pct. But def start using SERMs. They r way better than that OTC stuff.
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allright. sounds good. ill save the SD clones and phera for a few cycles later... ill run the tren and havoc first. what would be a good dosing for the tren, i will run the havoc at 30mg for 30 days, as i have 1 bottle. plus i went to 50mg with tha havoc and it didnt seem more beneficial minus the temporary hardness. edit... im pretty lean and i do lean out easily, so what about just the Mdrol solo? id love to get to 210-215lbs
 
dustin06MR said:
allright. sounds good. ill save the SD clones and phera for a few cycles later... ill run the tren and havoc first. what would be a good dosing for the tren, i will run the havoc at 30mg for 30 days, as i have 1 bottle. plus i went to 50mg with tha havoc and it didnt seem more beneficial minus the temporary hardness. edit... im pretty lean and i do lean out easily, so what about just the Mdrol solo? id love to get to 210-215lbs
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if one bottle of tren 90mg for 30 days
 
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