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Opinion needed-Can I add tr3st?

ddemark

ddemark

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I'm going to run dmz and Dermafury, I want to know if I can add a low dose of tr3st (50mg ed) And if that would be effective to help combat low energy and libido loss. I want to stay dry and make keepeable gains, that's why I want to dose it low. And would td or oral be more effective?
 
Transdermal 50-100 a day, grab some oral trest too and pop 25 pre workout:) ul def get some extra size n strength
 
ddemark said:
What about just 50 orally preworkout?
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Haven't used tr3st yet but it is definitely on my to-do list. Most guys are really loving dermatrest for the stable levels and popping 25 mg oral pwo for the boost. If you stick with oral tr3st, from the logs I've seen 75 mg seems to be a good dose. But others may want to chime in as to what you'd need to compliment what you're already running. Have fun though - seems like tr3st is legit
 
I am in my 6th wk of trest @ 125mg and DMZ @ 40mg also with TransForm. I had to back off the calories because i was putting on two much weight to quick and was getting soft. Me personally though i was still lethargic with the trest, might not be the case for everyone but it was for me.
 
blkdmax said:
I am in my 6th wk of trest @ 125mg and DMZ @ 40mg also with TransForm. I had to back off the calories because i was putting on two much weight to quick and was getting soft. Me personally though i was still lethargic with the trest, might not be the case for everyone but it was for me.
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What trest are you running?
 
This is exactly what I was thinking about doing. Did you end up adding the tr3st? and if so how much and when?
 
Tr3st will have water retention. Run a quality AI to minimize this. But from my experience with it, it will take away from that dry look.

Havent tried the transdermal but 50mg preworkout gives you a good push in the gym.

To combat lethargy while on DMZ used tr3st and OxyECA.
 
50mg oral tr3st preworkout is badass. I was just gonna have a fluff day at the gym, then that stuff kicked in, and next thing you know im on my 9th set of leg press shattering PRs haha.

I also pair it with 40mg dmz, idk if that kicks in like the trest though.
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Tr3st will have water retention. Run a quality AI to minimize this. But from my experience with it, it will take away from that dry look.

Havent tried the transdermal but 50mg preworkout gives you a good push in the gym.

To combat lethargy while on DMZ used tr3st and OxyECA.
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Once coming off the tr3st will the dry look come back?
 
Depends, did you look dry before the cycle?

Once you get off tr3st the water will leave like any other wet compound. Keep estrogen in control during cycle and PCT.

If you want to maintain a dry look you may opt for stano. The1(this is methylated but its not suppose to be as harsh) is also dry but ive never used it. Whatever you go with add TUDCA.

When I ran Tr3st and DMZ I went up to 240, during the cycle I purposely cut down to 235, and now after i just finished a 2 month PCT and im sitting at around 230. So the gains are very maintainable. Strength also maintained.
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Depends, did you look dry before the cycle?

Once you get off tr3st the water will leave like any other wet compound. Keep estrogen in control during cycle and PCT.

If you want to maintain a dry look you may opt for stano. The1(this is methylated but its not suppose to be as harsh) is also dry but ive never used it. Whatever you go with add TUDCA.

When I ran Tr3st and DMZ I went up to 240, during the cycle I purposely cut down to 235, and now after i just finished a 2 month PCT and im sitting at around 230. So the gains are very maintainable. Strength also maintained.
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I'm dry and lean right now. Will use arimidex on cycle and transform in pct. My main goal is to maintain strength through pct. I lost more strength than I thought I would have after my msten cycle.. my pct this time will be nolva 20/20/10/10, Clomid 25 for 4 weeks, osta 10/10/5/5, super pct, daa, xgels and abe. It's any of that over kill or anything you would add?
 
I dont think your PCT is overkill....comparatively speaking My PCT was Overkill and im pretty sure thats why i maintained my gains.

This is why PCT:
5-6 weeks of:
HCG
Nolva
Aromasin
Ostarine

Little over 2 months of:
Ep1c
Str3ngth
Bulbine
Fadogia
DAA
Growth Factor XT
Reduce XT

I personally would add Epic because it has a number of health benefits and may help improve HDL as well as some nice endurance increases. Also Fadogia another good herbal for PCT. Reduce XT to control cortisol during PCT. Also get something for prolactin during PCT.

I tried Anabeta and I didnt get much out of it so I didnt include it in my PCT. I used things I knew worked for me before I ever did a cycle then threw it all together for PCT.

The Xgels is an awesome touch. I couldnt afford it and still cant, but the minute I can Im buying like 4 bottles lol.
 
I forgot I will add reduce xt. Is there hcg necessary to add? Also what are your doses for fadogia and bulbine?
 
I got a script for the HCG and my PCT was under supervision of a doctor. To my understanding there is a lot of misconception with HCG for PCT. Individuals think it will suppress you even further, however when done properly, the use of nolvadex and aromasin will prevent this from happening. HCG will stimulate the leydig cells and reverse atrophy quickly. The key is to control estrogen and prolactin during this time because HCG will cause a quick raise in testosterone. If done improperly recovery wont be as efficient. So is it necessary? Thats for a physician to decide, not me. I found it very helpful. IM going to run bloods as directed now to make sure everything is back in order.

Fadogia I used 1500mg a day.
Bulbine I used 2 caps a day from SNS.
 
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