One injection or two
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aj power
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X 2 you will get better results ... less of a roller coaster.
The Matrix
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What was the reasoning for the increase in testosterone?
100 mgs should have been fine provided that HCG was added in to give you another 2-300 level boost. Too much T can cause other hormones and thyroid to get out of balance resulting in more issues in the future. With the increase in T also e2 will also go up in proportion..TRT also depletes DHEA which also needs to be properly checked after few months on TRT.
Monday and thursday should be a good for injections.
The Matrix
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I would switch dr this guy is not up on TRT at all. I am working with Dr brownstein as his medical consultant in field of hormones and we use HCG with all TRT patients as it has more to do then just help with increasing testoterone. HCG also can help people on TRT to give them an emotional boost as LH receptors are highly numerous in the brain.
nobel252
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Thanks for the advice. Do you think I need to run adex with TRT or should I just wait to see how my estrogen levels are on my next blood test. I definitely want to start nolva at 20mgs a day because Ive had gyno for about 2 years now which was related to high dose of AAS and Hgh which I abused in the past . That's actually the reason I got diagnosed with hypogoandism
The Matrix
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I make patients wait 4-5 week to hold off on adex because it just may be your estrogen receptors reawakening from increase of testostosterone. Dr are idiots for giving adex for good measure right off the bat.
8thangel
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I recently began 100mg test cyp q weekly and after 6 weeks had labs done to see where I was at. When I started I was at 290 TT & my newest level was 240. I was quite surprised as this was 50 points lower than before starting my TRT!
My estradiol was at 36 which is the upper end of normal so my doc started me on 1000mg of Calcium D-Glucarate bid and 200mg od DIM bid to see where that puts things. Do you think this is a suitable starting point to bring the estradiol down without jumping to adex or nolva?
Unfortunately no estradiol level was taken prior to TRT to give a starting level on....
Be curious of your opinion/input,
Thanks
The Matrix
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reference your thread.
nobel252
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I think Im going to just pin 100 mgs a week to stay on the safe side. My nips already getting sore and im on my 6th week. Before I started my total test was 260. Hoping to get around 400-500. Im also hypothyroid and my doc is trying to put me on synthroid but I would rather take natural dessicated thyroid armour. Im going to a new doc this week to help me with this issue.
8thangel
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How long did it take before you noticed any nip issues? I've not had these but curious what to look out for. I've been on 100mg a week for 8 1/2 weeks now... I've had elevated Estradiol but no nip issues as yet. I switched this week to injecting 50mg twice a week to see if it helps get my levels straightened out. My total T actually went down after 6 weeks of TRT!?! My estradiol was high but not out of range so I changed up my administration to see if it helps.
About the armour I heard it's on hold indefinitely by the manufacturer. If you find out otherwise I'd like to hear back from you if you don't mind. I take care of someone who was using it but we can't get it anymore for most of the year and she had to switch to synthroid instead.
nobel252
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My nips got sore after my 4th week. I was also taking dhea which converts to estrogen. Thats weird that your test levels went down. Did you do your blood work both times in the early morning? Also have your cortisol and thyroid levels checked. I heard about the armour issue. I dont know if your familiar with Natures Throid but I heard that it is very similar to armour. Hopefully my pharmacy will have it.
8thangel
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Hmm, been 8 weeks and nothing's up with my nips thus far... How much DHEA were you taking and how often? I just started 100mg a day for a little while. My level before TRT was 237 I think? So I just want to keep up on it.
I had t3, t3revers, t4 and t4 free checked before starting TRT and all were within range although maybe a bit low.
As far as when I had my blood taken it was on the day of my injection "before" the injection and "yes" I thought it was very weird as well. My estradiol was 5 points away from being too high out of range though so that's the reason I switched to twice a week injection till I re-test.
nobel252
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I took a 100 mgs a day. Definitely more energy and slight increase in strength but the damn thing gave me heart papitations. I just stopped using it and Im switching over to reduce xt which is a metabolite of dhea (7 OH DHEA). Btw have you noticed any strength increase from the test? After 4-5 weeks you should have been somewhat stronger and have you gain any weight. On my 6th week my weight went up from 228 to 237. Very clean diet good complex carbs and high quality protein and I run 30 miles a week.
8thangel
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I have definitely noticed some strength increases but injured myself recently so I haven't been able to take advantage of them the way I'd like. I weighed 165 in April and have come up to 180-185 most recently. I think I weighed 175-180 when I started the test, don't remember? I eat the same as you mention above real clean and about 3000-3300 calories or so a day.
I do need to run more but recently tried swimming again and found it to be far more challenging than running... Just tells me I need to work on it!~ I like to run but it's kind of tough on my joints any more lately....