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sloganslimms
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Agreed on the arimedex being high. You will most likely need something, but maybe start with .5 every 3 days and see how you feel and hopefully get blood a month in.
Also, prop sounds good and all, but your glutes and delts really get tired of being a pin cushion. Dbol is an amazing pump, but too much for my back and shins. I'd get a back pump from walking up stairs... it's insane. My fu**in arms get huge though. I much prefer tbol.... Less water. Never done igf1 or mk677 before.
Also, prop sounds good and all, but your glutes and delts really get tired of being a pin cushion. Dbol is an amazing pump, but too much for my back and shins. I'd get a back pump from walking up stairs... it's insane. My fu**in arms get huge though. I much prefer tbol.... Less water. Never done igf1 or mk677 before.
Seanm513
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No that just what my someone recommended. I don't aromatize alot. I ran test e solo with no AI and I was fine.
Seanm513
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Does tbol not give you as bad pumps?
sloganslimms
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It was oddly more manageable with tbol at the same 50 mg/day that I was running it. I also used 4 grams of taurine a day with tbol too, not sure if this wasn't partly responsible. But the strength was great and very dry gains... very synergistic with the test base.
Renew1
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Mathb33
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Pretty sure growth hormone is absolutely not like igf1. Growth hormone will raise igf1 but that doesn’t mean it’s like injecting igf1. They are absolutely and entirely different things.
Seanm513
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What's the difference between igf 1 and hgh
G34RS
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Igf-1 is produced by the liver, and its excretion is stimulated by hgh. It is in part responsible for human growth and maturation, and is chemically similar to insulin. It’s anabolic effects seem to be not as pronounced as hgh, and is somewhat disputed in its effectiveness, at least compared to hgh. Side effects include liver problems, low blood sugar, and joint pain. Igf-1 has been looked at for treatments of various diseases, but notably it was contradicted in treatment of diabetes due to a link in retinopathy. It most likely will have effects on the thyroid as well.
If it is anything like hgh, you probably won’t see the results you want from it by running it along a steroid cycle of mid-duration. HGH needs to be used for months on end to have visible effects. I personally have hesitated looking further into those kind of compounds due to its effects on organs, and increased risk for diabetes and cancer.
This information isn’t from personal experience though, so take it with a grain of salt.
If it is anything like hgh, you probably won’t see the results you want from it by running it along a steroid cycle of mid-duration. HGH needs to be used for months on end to have visible effects. I personally have hesitated looking further into those kind of compounds due to its effects on organs, and increased risk for diabetes and cancer.
This information isn’t from personal experience though, so take it with a grain of salt.
Seanm513
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Do you know anything about hcg?
G34RS
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Yeah, is there something specifically you’d like to know about it?
MadStax
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Using IGF-1 LR3 alongside an extended HGH cycle can be quite beneficial, assuming you know what you're doing. I'd strongly recommend against messing with either til you've got a lot more experience, and to run an HGH cycle before adding IGF or insulin. You probably won't see much, if any benefit from the IGF and will certainly have sides from it!