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On cycle: What will help "bring me down" in the evenings. WIRED!

Whacked

Whacked

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Running a very mild cycle of 40 mg of var/day

Usually go to bed at 10 pm or so; passout and sleep fine!

Now: I'm staring at the ceiling WIRED until midnite then waking up exhausted.

Only 14 days in. This began at day 7.

Some info:
--All stims taken in the morning as I work out at 7am
--Var dosed: 20mg at 6 am and 20mg at 3pm
--USP PowerFULL at night (have been for over a year -works great)
--I tried: Theanine+Tryptophan - they are not helping. They make me relaxed but dont help me fall sleep
--Im 40+
--VERY experienced gear user but have been OFF for years (other than 150/week Cyp-TRT)


Any advice?

Is it my adrenals!?!? OR Cortisol!???
 
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try moving 2nd dose of var to 1 pm. do a short cardio after dinner i find when im on cycle and take a day off i can not sleep its like i have to burn it off by working out then i sleep fine. you working out in the morning then getting joj all day has you pritty pumped at night.
somnidren works good for me
 
Will certainly try it. Getting desperate :)
 
Are you consuming ANY caffeinated beverages within 5-6 hours of going to sleep? Even one diet coke 3 hrs before bed will make it difficult for me to fall asleep.

Also, odd as it may sound, I find giving myself a foot massage for 5 minutes makes me relaxed and sleepy.
 
GregW said:
Are you consuming ANY caffeinated beverages within 5-6 hours of going to sleep? Even one diet coke 3 hrs before bed will make it difficult for me to fall asleep.

Also, odd as it may sound, I find giving myself a foot massage for 5 minutes makes me relaxed and sleepy.
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Yeah you giving me a foot massage for 5 minutes sounds like a great way to get to bed, lol. Although i'd rather it be rosie or guesjn :fing02:.
 
Whacked said:
Running a very mild cycle of 40 mg of var/day

Usually go to bed at 10 pm or so; passout and sleep fine!

Now: I'm staring at the ceiling WIRED until midnite then waking up exhausted.

Only 14 days in. This began at day 7.

Some info:
--All stims taken in the morning as I work out at 7am
--Var dosed: 20mg at 6 am and 20mg at 3pm
--USP PowerFULL at night (have been for over a year -works great)
--I tried: Theanine+Tryptophan - they are not helping. They make me relaxed but dont help me fall sleep
--Im 40+
--VERY experienced gear user but have been OFF for years (other than 150/week Cyp-TRT)


Any advice?

Is it my adrenals!?!? OR Cortisol!???
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you have been on powerful for a year straight???

as far as sleep goes somnidren!!!
 
wedlund6 said:
try moving 2nd dose of var to 1 pm. do a short cardio after dinner i find when im on cycle and take a day off i can not sleep its like i have to burn it off by working out then i sleep fine. you working out in the morning then getting joj all day has you pritty pumped at night.
somnidren works good for me
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I don't believe it has to do with the dose timing.

CrazyChemist said:
Valerian root calming blend - they taste like **** but put me to sleep quick.
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This works great for me as well. Valerian is cheap and effective. Also Melatonin for the duration of the cycle won't kill you 1-2mg 1hour prebed should do the trick. One nice thing about valerian is that you can use it during the day too.

If the var is legit i doubt it's what is keeping you up.in my opinion I'd try an anti-cortisol product and see if anything changes.

Being a "very experienced" gear user have you ever had this problem with var before? How long have you been on TRT?
 
Yes sir ;)

Instead of getting on HGH for life, I decided to go the natty route. Im over 40.

thebigt said:
you have been on powerful for a year straight???
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You bring up a dammm good point.

As much as I assumed my stuff is 100%legit; I've never experienced this before fromn Var. I just attributed it to getting OLD (lol) and not being able to handle/mitigate some of the effects of gear ther same way.

monstermash said:
Being a "very experienced" gear user have you ever had this problem with var before? How long have you been on TRT?
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Would relora help?
 
Melatonin. Helps me when I can't sleep. Figuring out your effective dosage and timing might be crucial though. I take 1.5 mg (half of a 3 mg pill) 2 to 3 times a week sometimes. You aren't supposed to take it every night from what I know.
 
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