EMPIREMIND
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This is gunna make alot of people mad lol
This is gunna make alot of people mad lol
This is gunna make alot of people mad lol
who doesn't love gainzz??
The people whos products aint providing the gains this is about to lmao
The wait will be over very soon!!
how soon we talkin? like "soon" the way normal people use it? or "soon" the way supp companies use it? haha
Soon like a couple weeks.
How does this compare to ArA?
EP1C stacks up well to ARA in my experience. Recovery is a lot faster and I felt less DOMS. Obviously you will feel a lot more DOMS will ARA but the day to day recovery will EP1C was noticeable immediately. Strength increase was the same on both supplements. Size was and pumps were about the same but EP1C made me swear 10x as much as I usually do In the gym. One very notable effect of EP1X is the endurance I noticed by the 3rd day. Never had a supplement kick in so fast with an effect. Endurance is a 10/10. Here are before and afters of my sponsored log of the first version if EP1C.How does this compare to ArA?
that's actually an interesting idea, just like combining PA and ARA would be interesting as well. The results surpassed my expectations by a long shot. Idk how I ever let myself get that sloppy in the first picture.Any ideas of combining the two? Have yet to try epi, but these results to appear interesting
I like the idea of combining the 2. Not much feedback on it, if any.
My experience is ArA gave me a better pump, but that is about all it was superior in.
Strength about the same.
Endurance, recovery, and recomp effects all lean toward Ep1c for me.
And as Kickstart said....the sweat is ridiculous.
I have paired an -epi product with ARA for ~4 weeks, sick pump and DOMS. I can't comment on next gen EP1C though...
I would probably go 4 weeks EP1X and then 4 weeks combined with ARA and then ARA alone for last 4 weeks to test out the difference.
If you've ran ARA before may want to last 8 weeks combined.
EP1C stacks up well to ARA in my experience. Recovery is a lot faster and I felt less DOMS. Obviously you will feel a lot more DOMS will ARA but the day to day recovery will EP1C was noticeable immediately. Strength increase was the same on both supplements. Size was and pumps were about the same but EP1C made me swear 10x as much as I usually do In the gym. One very notable effect of EP1X is the endurance I noticed by the 3rd day. Never had a supplement kick in so fast with an effect. Endurance is a 10/10. Here are before and afters of my sponsored log of the first version if EP1C.
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That was 4 weeks of EP1C. Trying out Dermastr3ngth right now. So far so good compared to the oral laxogenin I tried last summer.
And now OL brings a better bioavailability to the game! Can't wait to try it myself.
exactly! Idk y I look so out of shape in the pic on the left. I was still lean at the time bout after EP1C I was bigger and leaner . I'm always a skeptic with natty supps obviously but hey, it worked!DUDE that is a huuuuuuuuge difference in 4 weeks! Kinda hard to believe it.
exactly! Idk y I look so out of shape in the pic on the left. I was still lean at the time bout after EP1C I was bigger and leaner . I'm always a skeptic with natty supps obviously but hey, it worked!
to be honest I can't really remember, I looked up my log but couldn't find my final weight through all the pages. I'd like to say prob 4 pounds. Had an extreme leaning effect and I was eating whatever I wanted, not dieting strictly at all honestly. It wasn't dirty weight tho, if it's not fat gain I like it lolWhat was the weight gain?
Jesus Kickstart7 that's incredible... Think about the proggress you will make with the next gen...
thanks buddyHoly crap Kickstart7 you look like you gained ten plus on ep1c, obviously not but still. I bet you were getting handed compliments left and right, major progression in chest and triceps...but where are the full body nudes![]()
I guess we'll seeJesus Kickstart7 that's incredible... Think about the proggress you will make with the next gen...
actually I had one if the first logs for the original! But, if the originals that good for me I can't wait for an advanced version!Pics are from his trial run of the new EPIC version.
hey if I get a discount code soon from OL it's all yoursThis has peaked my attention. I'm in. Take my money!
Pics are from his trial run of the new EPIC version.
Holy crap Kickstart7 you look like you gained ten plus on ep1c, obviously not but still.
I bet you were getting handed compliments left and right, major progression in chest and triceps...but where are the full body nudes![]()
I'm hoping the bioavailability allows it to work for me, Follidrone(i assume ep1c work wouldnt since it is the same main ingredient) didn't work for me.
They don't tell you how much epicatechin is in Follidrone, it's a proprietary blend of epicatechin and rice flour. What is so proprietary about that? Sketchy. OL always tells you exactly what is in each product and what the exact doses are, this is why they get my money
This. I'd give OG EPIC a shot and see if you're truly a non-responder to -epi.
thats what i thought too.. looks like a 10+ pound gain. Shoulders look thick as fark..
If hes sayin only four lbs it gotta be a pic when hes got a pump. Very dramatic differences between the two. Great results
If hes sayin only four lbs it gotta be a pic when hes got a pump. Very dramatic differences between the two. Great results
This is just a tease so far, we'll be unveiling all of the information this week and hopefully launching the intro sale as well. Stay tuned and thanks to all who subbed!
It was not with a pump. The first was at night on an off day the day before I started and the second was in the morning after my last dose.If hes sayin only four lbs it gotta be a pic when hes got a pump. Very dramatic differences between the two. Great results
He could have gained 4lbs but lost bf.
Would be pretty misleading to take a before pic flat then an after on a pump lmfao.
It was not with a pump. The first was at night on an off day the day before I started and the second was in the morning after my last dose.
Idk just going off what he said. If thats the case then he gained mpre than four... I mean whatever it is i want those results too! who wouldnt llol.
Its very common. Sometimes its unintentional. You know that feeling when u just get bacm fro. The gym and ur looking good so u take a pic.
I'm just guesstimating , I was eating whatever I wanted so maybe more than 4. It was deff good clean wait. Prob glycogen retention somewhat. But I looked sick!!!!! Lol. Really want this new version