Old prohormones

Cgkone

Cgkone

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Who would and who wouldn't use a bottle of problems with an exp date of 2011
M14add to be precise
 
Ok I am.
I'm 5 weeks into 4andro epiandro.osta for weeks 1-3 lgd weeks 4 and 5.
I'm 4 days into my 5 year old m14add.
Felt great today. I'm only on 1 cap 30mg.
Will up to 2 caps soon.
I have m
Letro and nolva.
Took 12.5 of stane yesterday. Might go eod.
I'll continue with the lgd and the 4andro epiandro....unless someone can give me a reason not too.
I'll end at a total of 9weeks. But only 4 on M14add.
I may add trest as prework out only.....unless someone can tell me why I shouldn't.
I'm also on fish oil protex3x cycle assist
 
Cgkone said:
I also have prami just not sure about a good starting dose when I add trest orally
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I'm extremely excited to see how this goes. Are you running the LGD for 9 weeks? I too have been toying with the idea of using oral trest PWO while on LGD. Unfortunately I can't help you with prami dose on trest.
 
I'd dose the trest at 50mg preworkout to start
 
I started weeks 1-3 with osta.
4-9 will be lgd. I'm on 6th weeks. 10mg osta.
30 mg m14add.
400mg 4andro.
800mg epiandro
Both andros I feel I can reduce as I add more m14add
 
Audioph1x said:
I'm extremely excited to see how this goes. Are you running the LGD for 9 weeks? I too have been toying with the idea of using oral trest PWO while on LGD. Unfortunately I can't help you with prami dose on trest.
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So yes I'll run it till 9weeks
 
Cgkone said:
I started weeks 1-3 with osta.
4-9 will be lgd. I'm on 6th weeks. 10mg osta.
30 mg m14add.
400mg 4andro.
800mg epiandro
Both andros I feel I can reduce as I add more m14add
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4andro can perfectly be reduced when upping M14ADD but epiandro is a nearly perfect stacker for it so I would not reduce it too much.
 
M14ADD has some anabolic and androgenic activity on its own, but not to an extrem extend.
It converts to Dihydroboldenon and probably 15-20% to Dianabol. The latter aromatizes pretty good and that to Methylestrogen wich is pretty strong. Therefore the bloat and estrogenic activity will be pretty high the more M14ADD you add.

Epiandro on the other hand converts to DHT. A strong androgen wich can not aromatise and blocks estrogenic activity and also reduces waterretention. So it counters some of the negative effects of M14ADD.

4dhea converts to Testosteron but can also aromatise wich is not something positive while having M14ADD in the system.
It will not help you with your mood since that sould be pretty good because of the strong androgens and the Methylestrogen so the 4dhea is not needed.
 
30mg of M 1,4 won't do much. IIRC, the conversion to dbol was somewhere around 15-20% with some intrinsic activity of intrepid. Dosing was around 90-120mg/day.
 
Rodja said:
30mg of M 1,4 won't do much. IIRC, the conversion to dbol was somewhere around 15-20% with some intrinsic activity of intrepid. Dosing was around 90-120mg/day.
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I would also start it higher. The caps of M14ADD I know are 30mg so that would be a single dose daily wich would not be optimal given the short half life.
 
I'm feeling the 30mg. I'm on week 6 of 4 andro and epiandro.
I'm also on 10mg of lgd.
I know it could all be timing but strength really jumped and libido jumped after 5days of M14add
I have stane and letro.
I've been using stan E every 3rd day. Works great.
I'll start 60mg of M14add tomorrow.
So I'll keep the epiandro at 700-900 10mg a day.
4 andro should be cut to 300mg...or dropped all together?
 
I definitely don't think so, given you won't dose your AI too high. You have Esteogen (a f*cking strong one) DHT and two other powerful adrogens in your system.
 
I would start around 0,5 mg eod and probably go to 0,5 mg ed if its too less and then up from there if needed.
 
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