Can get my hands on this older Apex product...trying to do some research on it but very little out there on Dienolone. What would it be comparable too, etc.? If anyone has any info please lmk, thanks.
I'm trying to remember some of the guys that ran this.Can get my hands on this older Apex product...trying to do some research on it but very little out there on Dienolone. What would it be comparable too, etc.? If anyone has any info please lmk, thanks.
I ran the dienogen which was dienolone by itself. Ran 2ml daily with an added 200mg per week injectable dien. Good strength and leaning for sure, but the back pumps became crippling for me at the doses I was using. All in all it is a strong substance but like anything that strong it will have some sides in all likelihood. Ironically for me it was rougher in terms of sides than Tren E for just me personallyI'm trying to remember some of the guys that ran this.
@tullius , didn't you run it? (Dienolone)
@xR1pp3Rx really enjoyed it, from what I remember...
I always used inhibit P when on dien. Seemed pretty much mandatory for me on that compound. Forgot to mention aboveI really liked Dienelone Enanthate injectable. Awesome stuff, like a mix between a very mild Tren and a much less wet Deca. I was cutting on it but mainly recomped more, not a huge poundage drop but definitely lost some fat while getting stronger every week. I would be exhausted & feel underfed and still end up adding 5lbs to the bar weekly somehow.
I think it was bad for my lipids and had to use prolactin control, and sleep got a lot worse, but otherwise I generally really liked it all around. Man libido was pretty intense too. One of my favorite compounds ever.
I did the same. 6 per day seemed to actually control prolactin pretty well.I always used inhibit P when on dien. Seemed pretty much mandatory for me on that compound. Forgot to mention above
I have to use Caber on everything 19-nor eventually, really. High dose B6/P5P doesn’t cut it for long, and it also causes nerve issues after about 8 weeks (which will go away, but it’s a thing).I did the same. 6 per day seemed to actually control prolactin pretty well.
Hmmm, don’t recall reading up on the nerve damage part, but I don’t doubt it. I must be lucky with 19nors. Nandrolone doesn’t seem to do anything to me prolactin wise, but I probably should have hit my caber reserves on dien.I have to use Caber on everything 19-nor eventually, really. High dose B6/P5P doesn’t cut it for long, and it also causes nerve issues after about 8 weeks (which will go away, but it’s a thing).
It’s well documented. It does reverse upon cessation, but the takeaway is there’s a clock relative to the elevated daily intake dosage:Hmmm, don’t recall reading up on the nerve damage part, but I don’t doubt it. I must be lucky with 19nors. Nandrolone doesn’t seem to do anything to me prolactin wise, but I probably should have hit my caber reserves on dien.
Well you’ve done it again; mind blown. Got some reading to do, but the info is greatly appreciated brother.It’s well documented. It does reverse upon cessation, but the takeaway is there’s a clock relative to the elevated daily intake dosage:
So for example, a guy taking deca for 5 months to get bigger and stronger is probably working against his goals trying to use big doses of pyroxidine the entire time if he needs to lower prolactin. He’s essentially going to be downregulating the nervous system over time that he’s actually trying to upregulate with heavier training for gains.
Using P5P is going to allow a lot less mg needed than B6. I don’t know if because it’s more potent per mg that the neuropathy threshold remains the same or becomes lower, but either way a guy could use that for a month or so, then switch to low dose caber or maybe get away with L-Dopa for a month, then toggle back to P5P, and so on, to keep the nerves firing hard.
Here’s the TLDR if you combine it with the study comparing B6 to Caber:Well you’ve done it again; mind blown. Got some reading to do, but the info is greatly appreciated brother.
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