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....ok something weird going on

Anarchy939

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Alright, I started taking Max LMG yesterday, took one tablet this morning before my workout, and man, my workout SUCKED MAJOR ASS! I had no strength whatsoever. The weights felt really heavy and My stamina was shot completely. I was a walking zombie after my first set! I have been setting PR's each and every workout prior to this, but today's workout was terrible! a complete 180-degree turn from previous workouts. No matter how low I lowered my weights I could still only pump out like 2 reps or so before failing. All I've changed is I've dropped my H.O.T doseage down to 3 caps per night, and started taking Max yesterday.. can you offer a little help here? could it be that the amount of testosterone in my system was higher than Max LMG's anabolic activity, thus starting Max suppressing my production of test?
 
Maybe just a bad day in the gym????????????? I really doubt the max would have any effect whatsoever after only one dose. jmho

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What muscles were you working? Were your muscles so pumped that you couldn't continue or was it fatigue?
 
I actually had 1 full day on before lifting. Yesterday was my off day. I posted this right after my workout, in which I trained Chest, Shoulders, Tri's + Back. I use Dogg Crapp training methods. It was real weird, after first rep I felt fine, but then after the second one the weight just wouldn't budge :confused:

Should I discontinue Max LMG?
 
Stupid question, but had you recently taken a break from lifting? I felt ever so slightly lethargic on Max LMG, but it didn't seem to affect my lifts.
 
BigSwede said:
Stupid question, but had you recently taken a break from lifting? I felt ever so slightly lethargic on Max LMG, but it didn't seem to affect my lifts.
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no. Actually I have been training straight for about 5 weeks now. Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
 
I agree... sometimes you just have crappy days in the gym. The Max would not have done that to you after just one day. Just my 2 cents



diamonddave said:
Maybe just a bad day in the gym????????????? I really doubt the max would have any effect whatsoever after only one dose. jmho

dd
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Take no offense to this, but is it just me or have you been running A LOT of cycles latley? It seems like every other week or so, you inform us of oyur new findings from all thes new products, via bloodwork, etc...You must give your body time after heavy cycling no matter what. And I honestly think the guys doing all of these 2, 3, 4 weekers back to back are doing the most harm....it's not good on the body to keep making your hormones go up and down...and it is possible that your body is trying to tell you something...

With tha said, I'm sure it was just an off day homes. Just because you've been on for 2 days don't mean jack. Give it at least a week man...lol. I don't even feel 60mg DBOl until the 5th or 6h day...
 
lifted said:
Take no offense to this, but is it just me or have you been running A LOT of cycles latley? It seems like every other week or so, you inform us of oyur new findings from all thes new products, via bloodwork, etc...You must give your body time after heavy cycling no matter what. And I honestly think the guys doing all of these 2, 3, 4 weekers back to back are doing the most harm....it's not good on the body to keep making your hormones go up and down...and it is possible that your body is trying to tell you something...

With tha said, I'm sure it was just an off day homes. Just because you've been on for 2 days don't mean jack. Give it at least a week man...lol. I don't even feel 60mg DBOl until the 5th or 6h day...
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..yeah, I guess you're right there. Although most of them I quit after only a week or so. I really haven't run a FULL cycle in a while. (Feb.) I think I may just call it quits and Just wean off of Ultra H.O.T for a week or two, go clean for a while, and then if things are ok, start something else.
 
Anarchy939 said:
..yeah, I guess you're right there. Although most of them I quit after only a week or so. I really haven't run a FULL cycle in a while. (Feb.) I think I may just call it quits and Just wean off of Ultra H.O.T for a week or two, go clean for a while, and then if things are ok, start something else.
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I did the same thing, ran SD/1T/4AD and had some unexpected things arise for 4 days so I ended it and did a week of Nolva. I am on a Max LMG/Ergo right now, and well I was having second thoughts about running it too (due to hair problems) but am gonna stick it out and then take a long break after (PCT with Hot and hopefully Activate)
 
Grassroots082 said:
I did the same thing, ran SD/1T/4AD and had some unexpected things arise for 4 days so I ended it and did a week of Nolva. I am on a Max LMG/Ergo right now, and well I was having second thoughts about running it too (due to hair problems) but am gonna stick it out and then take a long break after (PCT with Hot and hopefully Activate)
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Keep me posted ont he hair probs. I plan to run the same cycle in the winter. I hope you have your niz/spiro,etc together.
 
No offense man, but you asked a pretty stupid question. Being on Max for one day had nothing to do with your shitty day in the gym. I'm currently on day 18 of my cycle and I didn't begin to notice things until about 10-11 days in. If you want to quit thats fine, but go ahead and send me the rest of your bottle. People have bad days. Perhaps you didn't get enough rest prior to lifting or you didn't eat well. Or it could just be that you're........ a wuss ;).
 
maybe its your split, id be fatigued to the bone if i did chest, shoulders back and tris in one day.

plus i dont uinderstand what doing 4 days of a cycle and then stopping is going to do. if you are that susceptible to sides with hormonal supps, then i wouldnt use them. short bursts like this would do more harm than good imo.
 
onshow said:
maybe its your split, id be fatigued to the bone if i did chest, shoulders back and tris in one day.

plus i dont uinderstand what doing 4 days of a cycle and then stopping is going to do. if you are that susceptible to sides with hormonal supps, then i wouldnt use them. short bursts like this would do more harm than good imo.
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Yes, for some, the sides just out weigh the benefits. I actually am border line with everything....in the near future, I can see myself either quitting altogether, or just using something very simple and mild like var, etc...
 
RAVEN said:
I agree... sometimes you just have crappy days in the gym. The Max would not have done that to you after just one day. Just my 2 cents
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Yes, thats impossible. MAX is rather quick to kick inm but not so quick. And people is experiencing strenght gains, if any not the opposite.

I think you may have overtrained your body or overloaded it with external hormomes. Go get a rest and take a complete blood panel, bro.
 
Anarchy939 said:
Alright, I started taking Max LMG yesterday, took one tablet this morning before my workout, and man, my workout SUCKED MAJOR ASS! I had no strength whatsoever. The weights felt really heavy and My stamina was shot completely. I was a walking zombie after my first set! I have been setting PR's each and every workout prior to this, but today's workout was terrible! a complete 180-degree turn from previous workouts. No matter how low I lowered my weights I could still only pump out like 2 reps or so before failing. All I've changed is I've dropped my H.O.T doseage down to 3 caps per night, and started taking Max yesterday.. can you offer a little help here? could it be that the amount of testosterone in my system was higher than Max LMG's anabolic activity, thus starting Max suppressing my production of test?
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I wouldn't fret about one crappy day. I'd continue with your current cycle as planned unless you seemed to be consistently fried. After this cyle, I'd definately go clean for 2 cycle lengths minimum to get your equilibrium re-estabished.
 
Anarchy939 said:
..yeah, I guess you're right there. Although most of them I quit after only a week or so. I really haven't run a FULL cycle in a while. (Feb.) I think I may just call it quits and Just wean off of Ultra H.O.T for a week or two, go clean for a while, and then if things are ok, start something else.
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WTF???? I missed that part. Going clean for a while sounds like a good idea. BTW, why did you quit your cycles?
 
ok, here's an update:

I've stuck with my current cycle and it appears that wednesday was a fluke. Today was awesome, to say the least. strength's up, weight's up. In fact I'm up 4lbs already, although this could be due to mega-eating/bloat. I decided to stick with it, because It has been 6 weeks since my last cycle, which only lasted 1 1/2 weeks, but that was enough to shut me down-- refer to my Ultra H.O.T results-- So my official PCT was another 1 1/2 weeks, making my actual cycle 3 weeks. I've been off of PCT, but still on H.O.T for 4 1/2 weeks, and have recovered nicely. I plan on finishing out this cycle + PCT and going clean for a few months at least, whilst maybe running some Activate or H.O.T to enhance natty. production, as with both I've had remarkable success. --any thoughts here?
 
Cycle Update:

Ok, today is day #7 of my cycle, and I'm up 7lbs! Waist is the same, which is good. Feeling real good ATM..:drunk:
 
Anarchy939 said:
Cycle Update:

Ok, today is day #7 of my cycle, and I'm up 7lbs! Waist is the same, which is good. Feeling real good ATM..:drunk:
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Instead of creating another thread, I thought I'd post this question here... I have been getting some slight edema around my left ankle in the last 2-3 days... I have gained 8lbs in 8 days now, so is there a chance this is just resulting of the rapid gains? I probably have been OD'ing on sodium as well.. ate a whole package of beef jerky the other day... boy that **** was salty as hell, but good no doubt..
 
Are you noticing edema anywhere else (i.e. rings tighter on your fingers, puffy eyes especially in the morning, etc.)? Usually I see it in those places too. After your on your feet for a while you'll notice it more in your lower extremities. Keep your fluid intake high and cut down on the sodium (you probably already know thatInvalid Link Removed)
 
Carl Hungus said:
Are you noticing edema anywhere else (i.e. rings tighter on your fingers, puffy eyes especially in the morning, etc.)? Usually I see it in those places too. After your on your feet for a while you'll notice it more in your lower extremities. Keep your fluid intake high and cut down on the sodium (you probably already know thatInvalid Link Removed)
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The only places I notice it are my left ankle and my eyes/face first thing in the morning.
 
Alright, I've had enough of this.. After today's shitty workout, I've decided to deload for a week or two, then start up fresh.. Would it be ok to still run my cycle in the meantime, or should I quit and run PCT?
 
seriously, imo, stay off everything apart from staples. either you arent ready to cope with possible sides or your body isnt reacting well to hormanal supps. whether its a mental or physical thing, only you can tell. but these short cycles are not good for you. the suppression you will be suffering would be massive and the fact your body isnt given time to recover is dangerous.
 
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