Observations from first time pinner...

utk1976

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Hello all. I recently pinned for the first time using DS' 4OHT cyp (in conjunction with other compounds) and thought that I might share a few observations in hopes of helping others.

1. If you're not sure how much a muscle can "hold" then start with a small amount and work your way up. This is an obvious point, but I failed to observe it nonetheless. During my second injection I put 2.5cc into my left medial delt. I think the general consensus is that 1 - 2cc is about right for shoulders, and after putting 2.5 in mine, I agree as that was far too much. I had shoulder pain for about 24hrs while the injection dissipated. It felt like an inflamed bursa sack if anyone can relate to that - not an overwhelming pain, but enough to be noticeable. If I had to do it over again I would start with 1cc and work my way up.

2. Try to keep your hand steady. I feel pretty comfortable in saying that most of the minor soreness that I experienced after my first glute injection was due to my hands shaking. The needle was undoubtedly doing a number on the skin/fat/and muscle tissue at the injection site. If I had it to do over again, I would probably do a delt shot for my first injection. It's easier to see and more accessible and there are no cramps for having to contort your body.

3. It doesn't hurt and you do get accustomed to it. In retrospect it's clear to me that the greatest hurdle with pinning is the psychological one. After you do it once, however, it's easy. As a matter of fact, I look forward to it now and regret that I waited this long to start. So if I had it to do over again, I would have started pinning sooner and saved my liver from so much work.

4. If you rush or lose focus, you'll make a mistake. I tried to pin in sort of a hurry the other day. I got the needle in and just as I put my finger on the plunger I realized that I hadn't properly removed all the air from the syringe. It was mildly frightening, but was also a good reminder that's important to go through the whole "checklist" of steps each time and not to rush.

Well, that's all I've got. Nothing new or earth-shattering here, but still things that bear repeating.

=utk1976. Go Vols.........
 
Thanks for sharing. I as well hit myself for the first time recently. Are you a dart thrower or a slow pusher? I've heard that the slow push is the way to go but never tried it myself.
 
I use 25g needles which seem to require very little force to break the skin. I just try to apply a modest amount of pressure and insert slowly. I have been advised that this is the better approach, as it allows you to stop and withdraw the pin if you graze a nerve.

The 25g needles only allow a small volume of liquid to pass through, so it takes about a minute to empyt 3ccs.
 
There's one thing you forgot, it may be covered on number 4 but it deserves its own category. ASPIRATE All it takes is one time in a vein and youre in for a nasty ride.
 
1. If you're not sure how much a muscle can "hold" then start with a small amount and work your way up. This is an obvious point, but I failed to observe it nonetheless. During my second injection I put 2.5cc into my left medial delt. I think the general consensus is that 1 - 2cc is about right for shoulders, and after putting 2.5 in mine, I agree as that was far too much. I had shoulder pain for about 24hrs while the injection dissipated. It felt like an inflamed bursa sack if anyone can relate to that - not an overwhelming pain, but enough to be noticeable. If I had to do it over again I would start with 1cc and work my way up.
No more than 3 cc's into deltoid, if 2.5 hurt for you, there you go, don't go higher. Dorsogluteal (upper, outer glute) , ventrogluteal (hip), and vastus lateralis (thigh) can hold up to 5 cc's. Once again, not for everyone. These amounts are the standards for medical IM administation. Soreness is not my #1 concern however when giving a drug to a patient. Proper med/ dosage is. You should massage injection site as well after administration. Make sure you stay sterile (use alcohol pad, etc...) and make sure you aspirate (no blood).
 
This question has plagued me for a while now but what would u do if u aspirate and blood goes into the syringe, obviously inject into a different area but do you empty the blood and change needles or just inject it all right back in there at the different spot?
 
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