Nubby in Need of Direction.....

dpatterson

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I am needing some direction for what supps to take and which ones to stay away from. I have been reading alot on the boards and it seems that everyone has their own opinions. But, I would like to hear from people who have actually taken supps that I would be interested in.

My Stats Timeline:

Age: 30
Build: Large Frame
Height: 6'1


01/01/2007 Weight: 286lbs
01/01/2007 BodyFat: 32%
04/17/2007 Weight: 257lbs
04/13/2007 BodyFat: 24.5%

(BodyFat determined by handheld monitor)

Target Weight: 235lbs

I lost all of this weight with diet and exercise, no supps, no gimicks, no nothing. Bused butt in the gym and stayed away from Fast Food, Sodas, and my favorite - Over Eating.

But, I have leveled out and cannot seem to loose anymore weight. Yesterday I started a 900 Calorie Diet - High Protein, Low Calories. I have been using a program called ProTrack 2005 to log all of my Nutrition.

Food I eat consists of the following:

Tuna, Chicken, Green Veggies, Cottage Cheese, High Fiber Cereals, 2% Milk, Sorted Fish, High Fiber Breads, bananas, apples, Assorted Veggies.

Typical Meals:

7am - 1C High Fiber Cereal or Oatmeal
10am - 3oz Tuna
1pm - 2C Veggies and 1 to 2C Cottage Cheese
4pm - 3oz Tuna
7pm - Chicken Breast, Veggies, Salad
10pm - Apple or Banana or Cottage Cheese and Fruit

I also drink at least 1 Gallon of Water a Day. I pretty much drink nothing by water.

Only vitamins are Men's Health One a Day... Anything else I should be taking?

Workouts are 5 days a week. Mostly free weights that isolate the muscle groups. Mostly, 4 sets on each with heavy weight to muscle failure.

The best Cardio that I have found is Raquetball. I usually play 3 times a week for 60 to 90 minutes.

What would you recommend to push me towards my goal? I am not looking to do anything long term, maybe 30 days then go from there. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Daniel
 
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dpatterson said:
I am needing some direction for what supps to take and which ones to stay away from. I have been reading alot on the boards and it seems that everyone has their own opinions. But, I would like to hear from people who have actually taken supps that I would be interested in.

My Stats Timeline:

Age: 30
Build: Large Frame
Height: 6'1


01/01/2007 Weight: 286lbs
01/01/2007 BodyFat: 32%
04/17/2007 Weight: 257lbs
04/13/2007 BodyFat: 24.5%

(BodyFat determined by handheld monitor)

Target Weight: 235lbs

I lost all of this weight with diet and exercise, no supps, no gimicks, no nothing. Bused butt in the gym and stayed away from Fast Food, Sodas, and my favorite - Over Eating.

But, I have leveled out and cannot seem to loose anymore weight. Yesterday I started a 900 Calorie Diet - High Protein, Low Calories. I have been using a program called ProTrack 2005 to log all of my Nutrition.

Workouts are 5 days a week. Mostly free weights that isolate the muscle groups. Mostly, 4 sets on each with heavy weight to muscle failure.

What would you recommend to push me towards my goal? I am not looking to do anything long term, maybe 30 days then go from there. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Daniel
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2 things - you can add cario and you can pitch your metabolism by putting a day well over 900 calories at least once a week. your plateau can be well related to your low caloric intake. unfortunately - the metabolism is a very smart beast that can see what you are doing and slow down on your to protect the body and its other mechanisms.

also - are you taking any vitamin supplementation?
 
257lbs and your trying to run a 900 calorie diet!?!?! forget about losing any fat, your just going to burn off all the muscle that you got doing that. you need to be eating around 2800-3000 calories and do cardio 4-5 times per week. As far as supplementation, i have been taking DCP for a bit over a week and I really like it. It doesn't do much for appetite supression for me, but the scale has been showing some numbers that I like and my diet has not been the greatest lately either.

anyways, good luck! hope this helps
 
The best Cardio that I have found is Raquetball. I usually play 3 times a week for 60 to 90 minutes.

Treadmills and the such just dont do it for me...

Only vitamins are Men's Health One a Day... Anything else I should be taking?

Food I eat consist of the following:

Tuna, Chicken, Green Veggies, Cottage Cheese, High Fiber Cereals, 2% Milk, Sorted Fish, High Fiber Breads, bananas, apples, Assorted Veggies.

Daniel
 
getjacked63 said:
257lbs and your trying to run a 900 calorie diet!?!?! forget about losing any fat, your just going to burn off all the muscle that you got doing that. you need to be eating around 2800-3000 calories and do cardio 4-5 times per week. As far as supplementation, i have been taking DCP for a bit over a week and I really like it. It doesn't do much for appetite supression for me, but the scale has been showing some numbers that I like and my diet has not been the greatest lately either.

anyways, good luck! hope this helps
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This makes sense... I have not been seeing much muscle development lately.

Should I keep eating the same foods as listed above or should I try to throw something else in?

DP
 
yeah the foods your eating are fine, you just need to eat ALOT more of them. at 257 you should be eating between 260g-380g of protein per day. with more calories will come more protein though naturally, so if you keep eating that chicken this shouldnt be hard to achieve. throw in a protein shake here and there and you will start seeing some good results!
 
Wow.. ok I was way off mark...


I have been reading up on ISS' Whey Matrix for shakes. Anyone else use this product?

DP
 
well here is a general formula that I am using to come up with these numbers. not the most sophisticated, but definitely a good starting point. you might need to adjust slightly if your not seeing good results, BUT:

to calculate calories use:

On a Cut - body weight * 12
Maintenance - body weight * 15
Bulking - body weight * 18

Then protein/carbs/fats should be somewhere around 40/40/20 respectively.

as far as the ISS Whey Matrix in my opinion whey protein is whey protein. i just get whatever is on sale....although i do prefer whey protein isolate especially when cutting. I have been taking ISO-100 lately and it tastes damn good!
 
OK I highly reccommend you restructure youre entire program:

Example:
Split in 6 Meals

Protein: 200g
Carbs: 100g
Fat: 50g

Cardio: 45 mins On non Weightlifting Days
15 mins Post Workout on Weightlifting Days

Training: 3 Day Split
 
dalvare1 said:
OK I highly reccommend you restructure youre entire program:

Example:
Split in 6 Meals

Protein: 200g
Carbs: 100g
Fat: 50g

Cardio: 45 mins On non Weightlifting Days
15 mins Post Workout on Weightlifting Days

Training: 3 Day Split
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are you recommending cardio every day? also, at 257lbs 200g of protein is hardly enough.
 
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