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Now Bush Lies Proven, Is Iraq War a Farce?

BioHazzard said:
You reminded me of Baghdad Bob! :D :D I think you are AnabolicMind's version of Baghdad Bob!

"The Americans are NOT in Baghdad!" " We are killing them!" :D All the while, the Americans were overrunning his whole country.

So, where is Baghdad Bob now? :D Think of Baghdad Bob and then look into the mirror. :D Your grasp of reality is in the same realm of Baghdad Bob.

Anyhow, you do realize that no matter what you imagine how things are, you are not making any impact on the reality on the ground in Iraq or anywhere else, don't you?

If you are only here to recruit new members for some out of touch with reality type, Heavan's Gate like gig... , then ok....:D



P.S. I think borgers is right afterall. You are just here trying to preach your brew of distorted reality.

You are pretty big on talking about reality.....
Care to actually address and attempt to refute the reality of anything I posted????
 
mindgames said:
You are pretty big on talking about reality.....
Care to actually address and attempt to refute the reality of anything I posted????
Sure... as soon as guys such as brogers, bite, I would too.

I think I agree with brogers. You are just here looking for a chance to list your nauseating list of fantasy, hoping that someone would buy into whatever that you are selling. :D

I heard that Australia is a beautiful country. Too bad that I didn't have a chance to swing by during my adventure in that part of the world. So, shouldn't you be drinking beer by the beach, or doing something enjoyable, rather than peddling the crap that fringe lunatics believe in? :D

Why are you wasting time barking at a mountain? The world is not going your way in this time-space continuum.. ... :D Iraq is never going back in time... So? You are climbing Mt Everest with no pants, on a very cold day. What's the deal there? :D
 
Rogue Drone said:
I doubt Bio knows a camostick from lipstick, and he must have skipped his American history classes where the value of dissent was illustrated. You know Bio, that thing that men like Jefferson encouraged in order to maintain a free republic? Question and challenge authority? Does the history of nations favor the accepting or the skeptical individuals enmasse?

I'm a lefty hippie drug addled malcontent traitor and coward, but watch your step, don't tread on me.

Oh no, the jig is up, Halliburton is trying to get into my computer, but my PeerGuardian is fighting the good fight.
You probably smoked too much drugs in your hippie days that you can no longer distinguish between dissent and insane. :D

In order to dissent, you do need to comprehend reality, and not talk crazy. When you talk crazy, you are just hallucinating. That is not about dissent. When you can no longer talk about things that reflect the reality we are in, then there is no common ground to talk about dissent.
 
mindgames said:
Today alone 79 dead and 160 wounded. Way to bring peace and democracy. Great tactic, Mr. Bush.
I think bush is a royal douchebag...HOWEVER, it is not even the tiniest bit his fault that muslim extremists are blowing up fellow muslims! Military losses and losses of life because OF the mlitary, that's his fault. But, terrorists from outside of the country killing Iraqi citizens are NOT Bush's responsibility in the slightest.

that's like me saying it is your fault that I punched my brother in the head because you broke into my house. (Exactly...makes no freggin' sense!)
 
Rogue Drone said:
Pride Cometh Before the Fall, your arrogant insantity of believing only you could have the intellect and experience to understand "Reality".

I'm sure that we all would like to know how you achieved this state of sanity that you believe alludes most of us here?

You would probably term it intellect and education, I would term it pathological mistrust of your fellow man's ability to be positively self determining, and the tunnel vision of state indocrination.

Think for yourself, Citizen, you are a tool of Fascism, that blending of State and Corporate power for the benefit of the ruling Elite at the expense of the peasants. We are all tools, some just less brainwashed than others.

Maybe you think your the ruling elite, and maybe insane, in the sociopathic combat skilled sense, men like me are sighting in on you. Al-Q, don't worry about them, worry about homegrown predatory peasants like me, you have been infiltrated, security is compromised, not by towelheads, but by men who look and sound "right", your brothers in arms.

The craftiest ,toughest people in this country are Libertarians and Anarchists, the natural political philosophies of the Predator, the Outlaw and the Patriot, the many more than you know antiauthoritarian individualists who will punch back when Big Brother lays too heavy a hand on our lives.

Not bad for a lefty hippie drug addled malcontent.
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BioHazzard said:
Well.. I think Bush talking to Robertson is just playing to Robertson's constituents. Personally, I think Robertson is full of it, and I would not want to waste my time having anything to do with him. :D Anyone who claims that his prayer has changed the course of hurricane should be carted off to the loonie bin. LOL If your prayer indeed moved hurricane, then that should be a little secret between you and your creator. Not something to be used to raise donation. :D


Bush's ME policy has nothing to do with religion but everything to do with America's strategic interests. It is less about oil as some pundits would like to put it. The Middle East is not our only energy sources. We get most of our oil from some places else.

Taking out Saddam and Baathist rogue regime serves several strategic purposes. I have touched this subject in pervious posts before and I am not interested in repeating them. However, if you are interested, I recommend this book. It explains clearly why we are there in Iraq and how that fits into the global war on terrorism.

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Have fun. It makes a productive read, whether you agree with the author or not. It at least gives you a glimpse into how things work in the bigger arena.

Thats one way to look at it... another?
One is deluded the other guided by instincts(Oswald Chambers) and the desire to kepp RWCC voting Rep.

Ofcourse we will just get our oil from venezuela!
 
Rogue Drone said:
Pride Cometh Before the Fall, your arrogant insantity of believing only you could have the intellect and experience to understand "Reality".

I'm sure that we all would like to know how you achieved this state of sanity that you believe alludes most of us here?

You would probably term it intellect and education, I would term it pathological mistrust of your fellow man's ability to be positively self determining, and the tunnel vision of state indocrination.

Think for yourself, Citizen, you are a tool of Fascism, that blending of State and Corporate power for the benefit of the ruling Elite at the expense of the peasants. We are all tools, some just less brainwashed than others.

Maybe you think your the ruling elite, and maybe insane, in the sociopathic combat skilled sense, men like me are sighting in on you. Al-Q, don't worry about them, worry about homegrown predatory peasants like me, you have been infiltrated, security is compromised, not by towelheads, but by men who look and sound "right", your brothers in arms.

The craftiest ,toughest people in this country are Libertarians and Anarchists, the natural political philosophies of the Predator, the Outlaw and the Patriot, the many more than you know antiauthoritarian individualists who will punch back when Big Brother lays too heavy a hand on our lives.
Let me guess. LSD? :D :D Homebrew Meth? Whatever it is, it sure works for you there. :D :D :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
 
EEmain said:
Thats one way to look at it... another?
One is deluded the other guided by instincts(Oswald Chambers) and the desire to kepp RWCC voting Rep.

Ofcourse we will just get our oil from venezuela!
ooookaaaaay......Not sure I follow you but, whatever...
 
"Pssssssst, Bio. Come over here. I have to tell you something."

(Looks around furtively to see if they can be overheard...)

"Rogue Drone is kicking your ass so bad. Please stop, in every way you are so so far out of your depth - knowledge, vocab., intelligence, sheer sentence construction and logic of thoughts.... Leave the thread and bury your head in SHAME."
 
mindgames said:
"Pssssssst, Bio. Come over here. I have to tell you something."

(Looks around furtively to see if they can be overheard...)

"Rogue Drone is kicking your ass so bad. Please stop, in every way you are so so far out of your depth - knowledge, vocab., intelligence, sheer sentence construction and logic of thoughts.... Leave the thread and bury your head in SHAME."

Classy there bro... really F**KING classy!!!

Adams
 
mindgames said:
"Pssssssst, Bio. Come over here. I have to tell you something."

(Looks around furtively to see if they can be overheard...)

"Rogue Drone is kicking your ass so bad. Please stop, in every way you are so so far out of your depth - knowledge, vocab., intelligence, sheer sentence construction and logic of thoughts.... Leave the thread and bury your head in SHAME."
lol :D :D :D That is so funny.

Kind of like when you walk down the street and some smelly crazy fanatics sneaks up to you and murmurs that you are doomed to be burnt in eternal hell... :D :D

I ammmm sooooo scared ! :D
 
Here is some more on what Mrs Gimpy pointed out as Watch the Trends, Not the headlines......

".....Watch the Trends, Not the Headlines

April 2, 2006: What you see in the Iraq news, is not what you get. The news business demands startling headlines, to attract eyeballs. It's business, as the eyeballs are rented to advertisers to pay for it all. But the reality of the news is less startling, and consists of trends. These are the current trends in Iraq.



After three years, the Sunni Arabs, who long dominated Iraq, most recently under the leadership of Saddam Hussein, are giving up. It took so long because of a quirk in Arab culture, one that encourages the support of lost causes. The term "cut your losses and move on" is not as popular in the Arab world as it is in the West. But even the slow learners in the Sunni Arab community had to finally confront some unfavorable trends. Chief among these was;



The Kurds and Shia Arabs have formed a national police force and army that is far more powerful than anything the Sunni Arab community can muster. Over the last year, Sunni Arabs realized that the police and army were in control of more and more Sunni Arab towns. This was a trend that could not be ignored. Added to that was the number of Kurds and Shia Arabs who had lost kin to Sunni Arab terror over the last three decades. Many of these people want revenge, and they all have guns. Many, especially those that belong to the police, or militias, are taking their revenge. The Sunni Arabs want protection, for they cannot muster enough guns to defend themselves. Now the Sunni Arabs want the Americans to stay, at least until there's some assurance that the Kurd and Shia Arab vengeance attacks have died down.



The alliance with al Qaeda was a disaster. These Islamic terrorists were obsessed with causing a civil war in Iraq, and they insisted on doing this by killing lots of Shia Arabs. The Sunni Arabs didn't want to kill lots of Shia Arabs, they wanted to rule them all once more. But that raised another contentious issue. While some Sunni Arabs were in favor of an Islam Republic, which al Qaeda insisted on, most Sunni Arabs wanted a more secular Sunni Arab dominated government. This dispute was never resolved, as the split between al Qaeda and the Sunni Arab community widened. At the moment, al Qaeda is not welcome in most Sunni Arab areas. That's "come near this place and we'll kill you" not welcome. This after al Qaeda tried to terrorize the Sunni Arab tribal leaders into compliance. Killing Sunni Arab tribal chiefs didn't work.



You can't kill enough Americans to scare them into leaving. Saddam, and most Iraqis, were convinced that, because of Vietnam (where 55,000 American died) and Somalia (where 18 died in 1993), the United States would withdraw if you killed enough of them. While that is sometimes true, it's good to remember that over a million Vietnamese died during the 1960s, and that 1993 battle in Mogadishu left over 500 Somalis dead as well. Moreover, this, "the Americans have no stomach for a fight" is nothing new. It's why Japan attacked in 1941, believing that if they beat up the Americans bad enough, the faint hearted Yankees would just go away. Hitler also believed the Americans would not fight. After three years, the Iraqi Sunni Arabs have discovered that the Americans can certainly fight, and the Yankees have also found ways to do it that involve extraordinarily low American casualties. This story has not really gotten the attention it deserves, but the Sunni Arabs have noticed. They have noticed that if you attack the Americans, chances are you will die, and the Americans will just keep on keeping on. It used to be that the Sunni Arabs could take heart from the occasional attack where they killed a few Americans. But no longer. Everyone knows the trend, and doesn't want to be another victim of it. Last month 32 Americans were killed in combat. The last time it was that low was in February 2004. Back then, the Sunni Arab tribes and al Qaeda had joined forces. Both of them had plenty of weapons, money and volunteers. Two years of bad trends have changed everything. The trend was that the Americans were much better at killing Sunni Arabs than Sunni Arabs were at killing Americans.



The economy continues to improve, except for those Sunni Arab areas where terrorists and gangsters are still out of control. Here's where it's all about money. Before Saddam fell, the Sunni Arabs had most of it. Since then, they have much, much less. The Sunni Arabs have been obsessed with getting their "fair share" of the oil money. When Saddam was in charge, the Sunni Arabs (who are 20 percent of the population), got over 80 percent of the oil money. Now they see themselves lucky to get 20 percent. Worse, all the oil is in areas dominated by Kurds and Shia Arabs. In response to this, the Sunni Arabs have continually attacked the pipelines that cross Sunni Arab territory. When paid to help guard the pipelines, some of the Sunni Arab chiefs just stole the money, and let the pipelines get attacked. The Sunni Arab attitude is one of, "if we can't have it, no one can." But now the Sunni Arabs have noted that much of the country is getting wealthier even without the oil. The Sunni Arabs have been living off oil for so long that they forgot there are other ways to make a living. The economic trends have been noted by the Sunni Arabs, and there is more willingness to do what needs to be done to bring some prosperity to the Sunni Arab areas.



Finally, there's the most important trend of all. How successful have Iraqis been in creating a civil society. This doesn't get much media play either, yet it is the ultimate goal in Iraq. A civil society is one that can run its own affairs without the constant threat of civil war or dictatorship. We take civil society for granted in the West, but in the rest of the world, it is more notable by its absence. American and British diplomats have been hammering away at the Iraqis for three years about how important honest government it. Many Iraqis agree. Yet the corruption continues, and three months after national elections, the various parties cannot agree on who will get what, and there is no government. That's because the lack of a civil society has the various ethnic, religious and tribal factions warily haggling over who gets what. There is not much trust, and the stealing goes on. Iraq's fate will ultimately be decided by how many honest politicians it has, not how many cops are on the street or what Iraq's neighbors think or do. ...."

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...and Baghdad Bob marches on.... :D :D :D
 
mindgames said:
"Pssssssst, Bio. Come over here. I have to tell you something."

(Looks around furtively to see if they can be overheard...)

"Rogue Drone is kicking your ass so bad. Please stop, in every way you are so so far out of your depth - knowledge, vocab., intelligence, sheer sentence construction and logic of thoughts.... Leave the thread and bury your head in SHAME."
:blink: oh my.....

:rofl:elementry school.....what great years those were! :)


mindgames.... i do see the good AND (KEY WORD!) the bad that is happening over there. if you actually cared, but obviously all you want is to see misery and failure, you would see that there is some good... possibly more good than bad that is occuring.

its obvious that you are incapable of understanding the simple concept of seeing beyond the headlines and actually looking at the trends...bad AND good.
 
Rogue Drone said:
Bio,


Scare me into submission with some more "We'll protect you from the evil brown people if you give up your freedom" lines out of the Burn 'em at the Stake Witch hunts of 17th century Europe.

Wait a minute, my bad, y'all like brown people don't you? As long as they are illegal and making you rich working back in the kitchen or mowing the lawn?

i prefer legal people to work in my kitchens and lawns.....but maybe thats just me.....
 
mindgames said:
"Pssssssst, Bio. Come over here. I have to tell you something."

(Looks around furtively to see if they can be overheard...)

"Rogue Drone is kicking your ass so bad. Please stop, in every way you are so so far out of your depth - knowledge, vocab., intelligence, sheer sentence construction and logic of thoughts.... Leave the thread and bury your head in SHAME."

What is the temp out there in the desert? Might want to seek out some shade bro.
 
Mrs. Gimpy! said:
i prefer legal people to work in my kitchens and lawns.....but maybe thats just me.....

Gimpy,
Your definately right..............................


...............Its just you!!! :rofl:

Adams
 
Rogue Drone said:
Wait a minute, my bad, y'all like brown people don't you? As long as they are illegal and making you rich working back in the kitchen or mowing the lawn?
That's the most lame thing I've heard in a long time, dude.

I've not had much time lately to screw around on forums, but if I see too much more stupid **** I"m gonna have to come OWN :D hahaha
 
BioHazzard said:
The damage is being done by the terrorists YOU are supporting!
This is absolutely KEY and people choose to ignore it. I'm no bush supporter..he's a douche!

BUTTT!!! He IS NOT RESPONSIBLE for morons with bombs strappd to their chests coming in from syria, iran, and saudi arabia to blow up Iraqi's who are working to build a new country (yes, I know there are some major disputes between the sunnis, shiites and kurds but the vast majority of damage is being done by non-citizens who are also al-qaeda linked terrorists!)
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
This is absolutely KEY and people choose to ignore it. I'm no bush supporter..he's a douche!

BUTTT!!! He IS NOT RESPONSIBLE for morons with bombs strappd to their chests coming in from syria, iran, and saudi arabia to blow up Iraqi's who are working to build a new country (yes, I know there are some major disputes between the sunnis, shiites and kurds but the vast majority of damage is being done by non-citizens who are also al-qaeda linked terrorists!)

Save your breath... Your point wont get accross. The points are just making a vicious circle now.

Adams
 
Rogue Drone said:
Yeah, about as lame as the legislation the Republic Controlled Congress and President will enact.

The Reps love the cheap labor, the Dems love the new potential voters, and **** the effect on the citizens. ~670,000 more illegals a year currently, I'm certainly looking forward to seeing America "evolve" the cohesive way of the Balkans.
I didn't think that was the message you were trying to get across?! :blink:

I agree its a MAJOR problem and the citizens are the last thing our elected officials are concerned with, unfortunately.
 
Rogue Drone said:
Bio,

You see that "36" flashing in the corner of your eye? Puppet King George's current approval rating?

That's the Biohazzard flasher of idealogical impotence, as the Mainstream Male Mighty Whities reject the Fascist, aka Neocon wing of the Republican Party in ever increasing numbers.

At least hit me with some copy and paste propaganda pieces, instead of that painfully obvious cartoon Similie plea for some X and an Escort. Was there every an anabolicminds member who more desperatley needed his member spitshined in the warm embrace of the love drug?

Take the red pill, Neo.

Scare me into submission with some more "We'll protect you from the evil brown people if you give up your freedom" lines out of the Burn 'em at the Stake Witch hunts of 17th century Europe.

Wait a minute, my bad, y'all like brown people don't you? As long as they are illegal and making you rich working back in the kitchen or mowing the lawn?

One word. :yawn: Sorry. Don't think it is worth responding to. :D
 
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