Unfortunately the fast acting options are prescription only. I can get Lantus, but it’s expensive and I’m frugal. I’d like to make Novolin R work somehow… I have heard of people using it pre workout but I can’t find any protocols online
Doesn't it have something to do with the novolin being recombinant unlike Humalog and humulin which aren't. When I was doing the little research I did do novolin was what was around in the 80s so you really had to be on top of your carbs log book and all. I was asking about the lantus specifically for when I start my off season protocol this fall. I'm thinking 20ius of lantus will be better than 1000mg of metformin
It's definitely not the ideal but I do know ppl who use novilin r becauseits easier to get sometimes. They take it like 1-1.5 hours pre workout so it peaks at the post workout meal. Timing is gonna be tricky for most ppl tho. But the one person in particular I'm thinking of is eating 100gm of carbs pre/intra and post workout. 300gm in a 3 -4 hour window and ther also using lantus in the morning and just switched to levimer. Guys eating 1000gm of carbs on his high days. He's more like you then the rest of us tho. He lives that bb lifestyle, never misses meals and weighs every grain of rice. He's on top of his shyt.
It can work for sure, but really not ideal… normally you’d want a protein/carb meal with no fats or very minimum before taking your insulin, about an hour or so before hitting the gym , and ideally you would want another meal / drink before the gym. For exemple I’ll eat dinner at 1pm, have my pre workout meal at 4pm with my igf1, at 4:45pm I take 10iu of humalog, at 5:00 I’m on my way to the gym and I’m having 4 Rice Krispies treats (don’t recommend this to anybody but I have high metabolism so my coach gives me that, otherwise Rice cakes with jam or stuff like that would work). And I’ll train by 5:30.
I didn’t see this before I respond! You know what I can see it, the way your friend does it makes sense and he’s getting the most out of it. Timing is harder and plan has to be on point but I can see it yes! I’m curious if I would maybe do like your friend to have it peak post workout BUT I would do another dose my meal BEFORE pre workout so say you train after meal 3(pre workout) I would do some before meal 2 so that first dose would peak during training.
It's all good, I also take in context that a lot of what you say is directly linked to bodybuilding and a lot of the things I say are not. Many times when you disagree with me, you think your disagreeing but were not. Your response is geared to someone living the bodybuilding lifestyle, but Bob down the street that's 18% bodyfat and eats 3 meals a day dosent need to, and even if he does he won't do the the bodybuilding lifestyle stuff. There's different ways to answer the same question for different people. I'm a muscular guy because I work out hard and heavy(when I'm not hurt) and eat a lot of food, but I don't look like a bodybuilder. You look like a bodybuilder because you eat and train like a bodybuilder. The things needed for your goals will greatly differ from mine and many of your policies would benifit me or Bob down the street. But for the bodybuilding life, our principles are not thst helpful to you because you need to be so much stricter. Sorry om not sure I'm wording everything correctly but I think it's understandable. And I'm actually Glas your a little more active because your perspective is a lot more first hand experience then many others have. Studies are great but they don't actually prove anything. Reald world applications are much more valuable given there accurately assessed
I have a friend who is doing the exact same thing with his Novolin and swears by it. I’m a big eater but the amount of carbs he puts in his body is INSANE. I will probably run something like this maybe 2-3 times a week tops on weak muscle groups I want to improve.
Let us know how it goes because obviously we all have access to novolin and I'm I woukd really like to experiment with insulin during this falls off season cycle
You’re completely right. I do need to work on seeing things in the other persons shoes more often!
