non stim fat burner

I liked both, I believe I used them together before too, I think there's a supplement containing grains and mitoburn (main active ingredient is L biba I believe in mitoburn)
 
Depending on if you do fasted cardio and your tolerance I'd say yohimbine.

I know a lot of guys that do ephedrine, caffeine and yohimbine.

And I just remembered your looking for stim free. So those don't help lol. My bad


That's not the one I took but I like the looks of it!
thats one of the ones i was lookin at thanks brother 😀
 
Iconic Formulation's ThermoAmp- has Baiba(Mitoburn), Caloriburn GP (Grains of Paradise) and Forslean (Forskolin) It's good stuff!
 
Both are great. I have tried them and I liked both of them equally. So you can choose any of them according to your feasibility.
 
Is this good to burn fat?
Grains and mitoburn are fat burners. They work great, but just like every other fat burner, if your not in a calorie deficit and doing cardio your flushing money down the toilet, there's no magic pill.

I like a supplement that contains the 2 things I mentioned in combination with Injectable carnatine and a little yohimbine in the morning "only if doing fasted cardio"

If you don't mind giving yourself a little sub q shot 2-3× day look into sr9009, the oral version doesn't work in my opinion, it's like 1% bioavailable vs. The Injectable being 99%
 
I can recommend Thermo Scorch and TTA-500 together for a great stim free fat burn combo. I wrote a review of my experience here;

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