Nolva/Clomid question for Dr. D and others

[bigguns77]

Does anyone know if you are supposed to take both, nolva and clomid, at the same time (at night) during your pct. I was not sure if taking both at the same time will have any sort of negative result. I plan on using clomid at the beginning of my pct to help bring the boys back and also use nolva the whole time during my pct. I'm unsure about the timing of when you are supposed to take them, together / seperate ??? Plus i think i read Dr. D saying that his first week of loading on clomid that he splits his doasges during the day due to too much toxicity to the liver at one time, so i'm assuming the first week you would split your clomid between morning, noon, evening ??? Does that sound right. I appraciate any feedback, i'm just trying to get all the facts before i start my PCT.

 

[bpmartyr]

wk1: Clomid 150mg/d, RXT 25mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 75mg/d
wk2: Clomid 100mg/d, RXT 25mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 50mg/d
wk3: Nolva 60mg/d, RXT 50mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 25mg/d
wk4: Nolva 40mg/d, RXT 50mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d
wk5: Nolva 20mg/d, RXT 75mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d
wk6: RXT 75mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d

Notice I phase the Clomid out and introduce the Nolva later. This helps prevent sides from developing from accumulation of estrogenic metabolites from the Clomid and also acts to minimize the use of Nolva, which is more liver toxic than Clomid. Rebound is very unlikely and estrogen biosynthesis will likely be significantly lowered for 3+ wks even after the end of this PCT. I do long ones, as you can see.

Doesn't matter what time of day you dose Clomid or Nolva due to their long halflives.

 

[bigguns77]

thanks for the reply bpmartyr, would you suggest splitting the first day or week of clomid since its a large amount due to the stress it puts on the liver ? I know you should load at 300 mg the first day and 150 mg the rest of the week according to Dr. D, seems like alot to take in on one serving, should i split the dosages through out the day for the first week ? I'm going to follow Dr. D's pct you have posted on your reply, only difference is i have AX pct on hand, so i was thinking of using that instead of the RXT, same dosages. Will that work ???

 

[bpmartyr]

thanks for the reply bpmartyr, would you suggest splitting the first day or week of clomid since its a large amount due to the stress it puts on the liver ? I know you should load at 300 mg the first day and 150 mg the rest of the week according to Dr. D, seems like alot to take in on one serving, should i split the dosages through out the day for the first week ? I'm going to follow Dr. D's pct you have posted on your reply, only difference is i have AX pct on hand, so i was thinking of using that instead of the RXT, same dosages. Will that work ???

To be honest, I just gave you Dr.D's protocol because I thought that is what you were asking for, essentially. I don't use Clomid personally, or an AI for that matter. Nolva works just fine for me along with some 7-OXO and Fenugreek. Last PCT I ran A test for USP Labs using Symmetry and Powerfull (see log in sig) and it had to be the best one I have had to date. Keep in mind, when you say "will this work" that even without any PCT drugs at all your body will still recover and return to a homeostasis. We are just trying to accelerate the process in addition to reducing any neg side effects and retain LBM. So yeah, it will "work". Is it the most optimal? Who can really say with any absolute certainty? There is a lot of debate on this subject and some of us agree to disagree. Much of what you hear is a blend of brotelligence and anecdotal evidence. How many people actually have pre mid and post PCT bloodwork to show what is actually occuring in their bodies during their "my way is the best" protocol. I sure don't! When I say it was a good PCT it means I felt good, I didn't grow titties, my biskit wasn't limp, I retained strength and LBM, I didn't get fat and my post cycle bloodwork say's I am healthier at 33 than most 23 yr olds. FWIW, IMHO, OU812