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stuart1971

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what would hapen if you used no pct after a cycle be it 8-10 or even 12 week cycles.

I myself would never do this.. But i know a lot of guys at he gym who have been on the juce for years and never done ANY pct, before i went on my first cycle i told them about meso rx and about proper pct and they looked at me like i was idiot..

they all seem ok . when talking about thropy they saiid yea they have had it but they come back round between cycles, and about gyno and they said no never had it..

now these guys are big lads who have been training for 15-20 years..

whats your take on this..does the body recupe itself eventually if you leave it alone...
 
Its not uncommon for users to run no PCT. Back in the day almost no one did, not ever pro's. It is POSSIBLE for the body to recover on its own, its designed to do so BUT I wouldn't recommend it though since we know there are better methods now to speed and ensure recovery
 
people are stupid....a lot of people do not use pct...they lose a lot more gains and have a rough time when they come off...deppression...no energy or libido...if you really look i bet these guys miss some gym time after their cycles....they are big because theyve been training for 15-20 years and running cycles the whole time...this will add up over time even if they lose 3/4 of their gains...but think about how big they could be if they had a brain
 
I think there also might be a difference when injecting directly into the muscle, and taking orals. I suspect one might need PCT more when taking orals. Back in the day, the former was mostly done.
 
nope...their both gonna suppress you just the same...pct would be more crucial after a twelve week test cycle than a two week cycle of the a-bombs...dont ya think...just as important on either one
 
stuart1971 said:
what would hapen if you used no pct after a cycle be it 8-10 or even 12 week cycles.

I myself would never do this.. But i know a lot of guys at he gym who have been on the juce for years and never done ANY pct, before i went on my first cycle i told them about meso rx and about proper pct and they looked at me like i was idiot..

they all seem ok . when talking about thropy they saiid yea they have had it but they come back round between cycles, and about gyno and they said no never had it..

now these guys are big lads who have been training for 15-20 years..

whats your take on this..does the body recupe itself eventually if you leave it alone...
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Yes, in theory your body will ATTEMPT to and likely will re-establish homeostacis.

The process can be lengthy with many adverse health effects in the interim. One of the primary adverse effects will be a loss of a LOT of the LBM that was gained during the cycle. You likely won't notice this much in guys who are already very big, as they really don't gain that much from a cycle after years and years of cycling. The guy who is a newbie and puts on 25-30lbs of new LBM in a 12 to 16 week cycle will be in for a sad after cycle experience.

Yes, an otherwise healthy male can recover from suppression unaided, yet it is counter productive to someone who wants to retain the LBM he just acquired.
 
i used to not run pct, then i did for a while, never noticed a huge difference either way to be completely honest. i cruise and blast now and find this to be the most efficient way to cycle, if i did not do this i would run pct just to be sure.
 
nephilim666 said:
i used to not run pct, then i did for a while, never noticed a huge difference either way to be completely honest. i cruise and blast now and find this to be the most efficient way to cycle, if i did not do this i would run pct just to be sure.
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what is cruise and blast ?
 
Ive been in this industry for a long time...I can promise you that even today, with all the information thats available, that it is still a relatively small percentage of users who partake in PCT....if I work with 10 guys, 5 of them have NEVER did any, and are hard as hell to convince that they need it....when a guy spends a hundred bucks of a few bottles of test, and then you try to tell him he needs $200 worth of ancillaries, you can imagine the reaction I get sometimes...

holy
 
basically its staying on cycle while in between your cycles....you run a low dose of test and mabye deca or dbal...say you cycle is...
1-15 test-e at 750mgs
1-15 eq at 500 mgs
1-4 dbol at 50 mgs

instead of doing a pct you would just drop your test down to 250mgs or so until your next cycle
 
I never even heard of PCT 21 years ago when I did my first cycle. I ran about 20 or so cycles without it and as long as you make adjustments to diet and training post cycle you keep most of your gains when you are young and have higher natty test levels. Nutrition is a huge piece of the puzzle.
 
heavyiron said:
I never even heard of PCT 21 years ago when I did my first cycle. I ran about 20 or so cycles without it and as long as you make adjustments to diet and training post cycle you keep most of your gains when you are young and have higher natty test levels. Nutrition is a huge piece of the puzzle.
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did you ever encounter gyno
 
citystreets said:
did you ever encounter gyno
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Never, and I went well over a gram per week for short durations every cycle including my first one. They were pyramid cycles for 8 weeks on and then 8 weeks off for 3 solid years. My calories and fats were kept relatively high between cycles sparing muscle. I trained the 3 years without any major breaks.
 
damn, i just dont see how that happens, people here can take a short designer cycle and erupt with gyno and some people get away with no pct no gyno.
 
I know some guys like this, and most of them are on hrt among other meds. I know a guy who juiced so much, that when he got his test levels tested, they where lower than that of a pre-pubescent boy.
 
LilPsychotic said:
I know some guys like this, and most of them are on hrt among other meds. I know a guy who juiced so much, that when he got his test levels tested, they where lower than that of a pre-pubescent boy.
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did u ask him how he felt! hahaha
i bet he felt as badass as a pre-pubescent GRIL hahaha
 
I finished a 'harsh' 6 week cycle and am only using a test booster. Bloodwork shows that I'm fine.
 
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