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No more arrhythmia while on cycle? Weird & need advice

machusenpai

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Alright guys, so I bought a bottle of MK-677 and this time it was filled with PH (my joints were ****ing dry and I had stupid painful back cramps). The thing is I suffer from heart arrhythmia and while I was on that unknown product, my heart was beating normally until the Gynecomastia and high estrogen symptoms kicked in and then my heart went back to being a bitch. So in my opinion, my arrhythmia is caused by a hormonal imbalance and the PH actually messed with my homeostasis enough to make my heart feel fluid again.

P.S. Don't tell me the: well, go see with your doctor.. because I did and now I am on beta blockers (I was not taking beta blockers at that time), but I still get the arrhythmia when the effect wears off. However, at 22, 90% of the doctors I saw don't even take hormonal imbalance seriously or they are just saying stop taking steroids, blablabla. (which I don't take)
 
No more arrhythmia while on cycle? Weird & need advice

Estrogen is a rather complex hormone, too little and your walls in the heart can thicken, your arteries can stiffen, free radicals such as superoxide become more abundant etc. all of these are detrimental to the physical cells in the heart and arteries. A study was done a while back where post menopausal women were given HRT and they found that it can increase the risk of a heart attack, possible due to estrogens ability to cause blood clots to form. High spikes can have have been known to cause DVT in women. Low test could also cause heart related issues so it’s possible the combination of the two cause some sort of heart issue though I’m not sure why palpitations came and went unless you had a minor MI and didn’t know about it which doesn’t seem likely given your age.

Though estrogen does help regulate heart rate and frequency if controlled properly so it’s entirely possible that the increase in estrogen levels post cycle caused your timing to go finicky. I assume whatever you were on decreased your estrogen levels (especially if you were talking an AI or a SERM during or post, which would have regulated your Hr as your estrogen would have been low, but once you came off it went back to normal or increased again.

I’d ask for full panel blood work and an EKG. 100% NOT something you should mess around with and try to fix on your own. Get it looked at by a cardiologist and be honest and say you took XY and Z. Get second opinions too. It is your heart we’re talking about.
 
ChocolateClen said:
Estrogen is a rather complex hormone, too little and your walls in the heart can thicken, your arteries can stiffen, free radicals such as superoxide become more abundant etc. all of these are detrimental to the physical cells in the heart and arteries. A study was done a while back where post menopausal women were given HRT and they found that it can increase the risk of a heart attack, possible due to estrogens ability to cause blood clots to form. High spikes can have have been known to cause DVT in women. Low test could also cause heart related issues so it’s possible the combination of the two cause some sort of heart issue though I’m not sure why palpitations came and went unless you had a minor MI and didn’t know about it which doesn’t seem likely given your age.

Though estrogen does help regulate heart rate and frequency so it’s entirely possible that the change in estrogen levels caused your timing to go finicky.
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Hmm, sounds interesting. But my estrogen is really high normally (puffy nipples 24/7/365), also I almost never have morning woods which might be due to high Estrogen (maybe high E2 converting test?) The human body is so complicated that most of the time even specialists tend to overlook things. I will try to ask my doc for a panel, but she will probably say no and here in Canada you can't do anything without a prescription. Btw, I always had arrhythmia since puberty when my gyno started.
 
ChocolateClen said:
Estrogen is a rather complex hormone, too little and your walls in the heart can thicken, your arteries can stiffen, free radicals such as superoxide become more abundant etc. all of these are detrimental to the physical cells in the heart and arteries. A study was done a while back where post menopausal women were given HRT and they found that it can increase the risk of a heart attack, possible due to estrogens ability to cause blood clots to form. High spikes can have have been known to cause DVT in women. Low test could also cause heart related issues so it’s possible the combination of the two cause some sort of heart issue though I’m not sure why palpitations came and went unless you had a minor MI and didn’t know about it which doesn’t seem likely given your age.

Though estrogen does help regulate heart rate and frequency if controlled properly so it’s entirely possible that the increase in estrogen levels post cycle caused your timing to go finicky. I assume whatever you were on decreased your estrogen levels (especially if you were talking an AI or a SERM during or post, which would have regulated your Hr as your estrogen would have been low, but once you came off it went back to normal or increased again.

I’d ask for full panel blood work and an EKG. 100% NOT something you should mess around with and try to fix on your own. Get it looked at by a cardiologist and be honest and say you took XY and Z. Get second opinions too. It is your heart we’re talking about.
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I went to a cardiologist, everything is fine on the physical part. No abnormality or malformation.
 
You said it yourself the human body is complicated, if you start messing with stuff yourself trying to figure it out you could have a really bad problem arise.

Get bloods, get looked at by specialists, not just a normal doctor but a cardiologist. Possibly go through a stress test for your heart etc as well and see if they find anything. Don’t try to fix this yourself, you could easily go from an arrhythmia to full on Vtach and then Vfib if you mess around with the wrong stuff.
 
ChocolateClen said:
You said it yourself the human body is complicated, if you start messing with stuff yourself trying to figure it out you could have a really bad problem arise.

Get bloods, get looked at by specialists, not just a normal doctor but a cardiologist. Possibly go through a stress test for your heart etc as well and see if they find anything. Don’t try to fix this yourself, you could easily go from an arrhythmia to full on Vtach and then Vfib if you mess around with the wrong stuff.
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True... however I already did see some specialists (hence why I am on Beta Blockers..). I did Electrocardiogram, Holter X 2, 24 hour emergency watching, echo of the heart, etc. The doctors said it's probably caused by anxiety (I am far from stressed) If I push too much, they will just think I have dementia, because nowadays it's much easier to say that someone has a mental illness than a real illness (at my age of course).
 
Azov said:
It seems like an anxiety and somatization case.
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What you mean somatization.. because I remember i started back up on mk-677 and never had problems in the past but the last time on my second day it was like late at night and my heart started to speed up for literally several hours and stayed like that all night. It was the scariest **** like I couldn’t fall asleep because of it...now these days I can only handle test TRT because I’m too nervous to reintroduce compounds or prohormones. I think it has to do with brain chemicals changing overtime I dunno
 
When we suffer from anxiety, and sometimes we do even though we may think that we don't have reasons to, we are more aware of physical symptoms and our mind tends to "create" some of those symptoms. But the good news, is that physical anxiety symptoms are usually just an alarm from your body warning you and saying ' hey! There's something wrong, please take care of me a bit better'. I hope this helps you understand what may be happening to you.

Meditation and other type of therapies may help on the short, medium and long term.

I attach a link so you can read further about it.

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