If he at least shows substantial improvement I'll be happy. He's got a better O-Line, a stable running back, better receivers (If Vernon Davis lives up to the hype, otherwise thank god we have Eric Johnson) so he really can't afford to screw up badly, the guy is only 21-22 so at this point I'll be happy to see some improvement. If they go 6-10 consider it a play-off yearjmh80 said:Dude - July and most of Aug suck major balls.
I'm readying myself for another season of major disappointment IW....
I think if Smith doesn't have a good year - he just might be done for quite awhile. I don't think he's got it mentally to have another year like last year.
tplant said:MVP: kurt Warner(that's right)
O ROY: reggie Bush or kellen Clemens if he winds up starting
D ROY: Michael huff
AFC Champs: Pats
NFC Champs: Panthers
haha he proved last year he can still play and after adding edge and pope I think he has a legit shot. Also Espn's "experts" picked the panthers-patsSpartan117 said:Did you really say that Hurt Warner is going to be the MVP. Thats great man.![]()
Iron Warrior said:I thought that was supposed to be last year![]()
Your the man. I thought I was the only Chargers fan here, but sadly I dont see Rivers leading them that far. Only thing I dont like is Redskins(cant stand them) and Hawk(cant stand ohio state). And I wouldnt say the Redskins as being a surprise, they did win a playoff game last year. And I would not be surprised to see them choke either. But San Diego!!!!! LT is the man, been watching him since he was at TCU. 406 yards against SMU, still the record.Bull Mkt said:MVP: Ladanian Tomlinson
ROY (offense): Vernon Davis
ROY (defense): AJ Hawk
NFC Champs: Carolina
AFC Champs: Chargers
Superbowl Champs: Chargers
Surprise Team: Redskins
Breakout Player: Chris Simms
lilkev42 said:Your the man. I thought I was the only Chargers fan here, but sadly I dont see Rivers leading them that far. Only thing I dont like is Redskins(cant stand them) and Hawk(cant stand ohio state). And I wouldnt say the Redskins as being a surprise, they did win a playoff game last year. And I would not be surprised to see them choke either. But San Diego!!!!! LT is the man, been watching him since he was at TCU. 406 yards against SMU, still the record.
oswizzle said:LT is my fav RB....Skillz wise he's the best in the League....But Defenses are gonna key in on him this year and make Rivers beat em downfield....So I dunno about LT being MVP...Larry Johnson is gonna break Eric ****ersons record this year if he stays free from any injuries...I think that would put him as a MVP canidate
Yeah, they fell really hard. Their dynasty ended the moment Steve Young laid unconscious after that blow from Aneas Williams. Jeff Garcia gave us 2 good years, but he clearly wasn't going to take them to the Super Bowl without a lot more help. I really wanted Braylon Edwards or Ronnie Brown since I thought Smith was largely a product of Urban Meyer's system. Me thinks the 49ers don't get back to the top unless there are some drastic changes in ownership and front office. John York seems to concerned with getting "character guys" instead of guys who know football and can play the game. I'm not saying character is not important, but you need talent in order to win. They've had too many first round busts because they chose guys with character over guys with talent.jmh80 said:Yes - but then we'd never watch football. We'd be starting at her hooters....
Agreed on 6-10 being a playoff year.
Oh, how the might have fallen!
Ill take LT, more recieving yards out of the backfield. Plus, Rivers has Gates as a safety route everytime, so you know Rivers wont be awful like Smith was. Smith didnt have anything except Branden Lloyds amazing catches.Bull Mkt said:I'll have to agree. Rivers needs to break out early in the season with some downfield plays or LT is not gonna see much daylight. Larry Johnson would definitely be my first pick in any fantasy league...the guys a beast.
Remember Jim Druckenmiller??? haha always a classic name along with a classic bust.Iron Warrior said:They've had too many first round busts because they chose guys with character over guys with talent.
But the guy could move a car :lol:lilkev42 said:Remember Jim Druckenmiller??? haha always a classic name along with a classic bust.
Rivers should do good. He has LT, Gates, solid and underrated receivers, a killer defense, and a better O-Line. he also has one more year under his belt then Smith.lilkev42 said:Ill take LT, more recieving yards out of the backfield. Plus, Rivers has Gates as a safety route everytime, so you know Rivers wont be awful like Smith was. Smith didnt have anything except Branden Lloyds amazing catches.
Iron Warrior said:MVP: Tom Brady
ROY(offense): Vernon Davis or Reggie Bush
ROY(Defense):Mario Williams or Michael Huff
NFC Champs: NY Giants
AFC Champs: New England
Super Bowl Champs: New England
Surprise Team: Green Bay Packers
Breakout Player: Frank Gore, Chris Simms, Cedric Benson, Phillip Rivers.
BTW, I know Alex Smith didn't look good, but how many 21 year old rookie QB's come in and and make a 2-14 franchise into a Super Bowl contender overnight ? They may be even worse this year with the losses of Andre Carter, Ahmed Plummer, and Julian Peterson. They filled those spots with rookies or special teams players for crying out loud. Manny Lawson replacing Andre Carter is the only spot where they seemed to have taken a calculated risk but the others are pretty pathetic. They should have also traded Eric Johnson, he has decent trade value and is now a backup because they drafted Vernon Davis. If they were actually doing their homework they could have traded Johnson and another draft pick for Deuce McAllister or Javon Walker.
hahah I actually typed Drunkenmiller but then looked at it and thought it was drucken, otherwise I know I would have to mention him a lot more. With a name like Drunkenmiller how would you not be a star.Iron Warrior said:But the guy could move a car :lol:
Everyone also seemed to call him Drunkenmiller too :rofl:
Iron Warrior said:Rivers should do good. He has LT, Gates, solid and underrated receivers, a killer defense, and a better O-Line. he also has one more year under his belt then Smith.
How could I forget about the PonysSir Foxx said:Oh, how you underate the superbowl champion Broncos![]()
Iron Warrior said:How could I forget about the PonysThey'll do good in the AFC West for sure. Shannahan seems to have everyone's number in that division. The Chargers are gonna be taking a few steps back with the loss of Brees, the Raiders. . . we'll they're the Raiders :lol: , the Chiefs are your biggest threat but they lack the killer instinct (and talent) on defense and I'm not sold on their receivers. God help the Chiefs if either Johnson or Gonzalez get hurt. Your Ponys shouldn't need more then 11 wins to wrap up the division crown. When they run into Indy or Pitt then the ride may be over.
BTW, what's up with Ashly Lelie ? I think the 49ers and Broncos would benefit each other with a straight trade of Eric Johnson for Ashly Lelie. You guys need a tight end and need a receiver. What do you think about that possibility ?
oswizzle said:Lelie sucks....he's nothing more then an Average deep threat Wideout.....Eric Johnson is Mr Injury Prone so I dont see the Broncos ****in with him.....Chiefs will own that Divison this year....my Boy Larry Johnson is gonna break ****erson's record this year
I'm beginning to have my doubts about Vick, if he can't become an efficient passer then how the hell is supposed to lead his team from behind on the road in the play-offs ? The guy is solid as long as the Falcons keep the games close. IMO you can't be considered a great QB until you prove you can lead your team from behind and put the fear of God into DB'soswizzle said:there is no way in abosolute hell that Michael Vick is ever benched for Shaub lol Vick is gonna take this team deep into the Playoffs on his wheels of steal homie....KC's defense is good enough...Herm Edwards will make them a better team..
Herm will help but they need a lot more then Herm on defense.oswizzle said:there is no way in abosolute hell that Michael Vick is ever benched for Shaub lol Vick is gonna take this team deep into the Playoffs on his wheels of steal homie....KC's defense is good enough...Herm Edwards will make them a better team..
He's still better then Arnaz Battle and we would get rid of Johnson's contract, I think it's a reasonable risk for both teamsoswizzle said:Lelie sucks....he's nothing more then an Average deep threat Wideout.....Eric Johnson is Mr Injury Prone so I dont see the Broncos ****in with him.....Chiefs will own that Divison this year....my Boy Larry Johnson is gonna break ****erson's record this year
Not bad, we have similar views. God I hate the fvcking Cowboys and TO. I hope TO embarasses himself even more after the Cowgirls are exposed.ICEBERG said:AFC Champion- New England
NFC Champion- Carolina Panthers
SB Champ- Patriots
Surprise Team- Titans
Most Disappointing- Dallas Cowboys
oswizzle said:I'm down if u can hook me up with a First Class Tickets from Los Angeles to where ever its at...:thumbsup:
I wouldn't call any RB Denver has worth a drop of piss, since that line and that offense can make a drop of piss have a 1000 yard season easily. It has been shown of the years, no matter who it is, they are succesful in Denver. So I wouldn't count out that running game ever, and Plummer, well we all know the best QB in the draft will take the reigns next year and let this team finally win.ICEBERG said:But hey, you got Ron Dayne- another overrated player who is worth a drop of piss.
lilkev42 said:I wouldn't call any RB Denver has worth a drop of piss, since that line and that offense can make a drop of piss have a 1000 yard season easily. It has been shown of the years, no matter who it is, they are succesful in Denver. So I wouldn't count out that running game ever, and Plummer, well we all know the best QB in the draft will take the reigns next year and let this team finally win.
gabe522k3 said:Its all about them ravens!!!!! that right Ray Lew and his bad boys!
lilkev42 said:I wouldn't call any RB Denver has worth a drop of piss, since that line and that offense can make a drop of piss have a 1000 yard season easily. It has been shown of the years, no matter who it is, they are succesful in Denver. So I wouldn't count out that running game ever, and Plummer, well we all know the best QB in the draft will take the reigns next year and let this team finally win.
CEDeoudes59 said:Not a Vick fan, but Atlanta is going to show up this year