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[warlordwrug]

15mg msten
75mg halodrol
45mg epistane
or
60mg dmz
100mg trenavar
Or
40mg dmz
120mg trenavar
which would be a better cycle for lean bulking?

 

[netflixNchill]

The second 2 would be best, I think everyone would agree putting 3 methylated compounds in your body is never the right choice

 

[warlordwrug]

The second 2 would be best, I think everyone would agree putting 3 methylated compounds in your body is never the right choice

Alright which would be a better option?two or three?

 

[yates84]

Ever ran any of these compounds before? What do you have lined up for support on these big cycles? How long you running this for? 1 and 2 are overkill for sure.

 

[warlordwrug]

Ever ran any of these compounds before? What do you have lined up for support on these big cycles? How long you running this for? 1 and 2 are overkill for sure.

I ran epistane at 70mg for four weeks and I ran dmz in a quad stack 40mg of dmz,50mg halo,max lmg and hexadrone.when it comes to injectables I've ran 700mg of test base in eo. 800mg to 1400mg of test e

 

[warlordwrug]

Ever ran any of these compounds before? What do you have lined up for support on these big cycles? How long you running this for? 1 and 2 are overkill for sure.

Also for support I usually run a gram of grape seed extract for liver protection and to keep up insulin sensitivity.1.5 grams of Hawthorne berry. This cycle I might run 1.5 grams of dandelion root and 1 gram of burdock root for liver and kidney support.also I always keep tudca on hand with AI but I might have to get prami if I run tren

 

[yates84]

I like a 6 week run of option #3, that's what I would do.

 

[Mumbles01]

I do halo/tren for a summer shred on a 400cal deficit & it works like a charm year after year.
I'll be adding dermacrine this year just to see its benefits.

 

[mjdel05]

I like option 2. Dmz is one of my favorite compounds. But I agree with tren and halo for a cut to shred up.

 

[Jebrook]

I like option #3 as well.

 

[warlordwrug]

Okay one more question which would be better bulking cycle. I'm definitely running dmz but I don't know which one. 60mg dmz 100mg tren or 50mg dmz 20mg msten. The cost is the same so that isn't a factor also I have all of my liver support and other stuff in order

 

[Mumbles01]

Dmz/msten
Tren is great for cutting & at 100mg it will be very effective at doing so.

 

[warlordwrug]

Dmz/msten
Tren is great for cutting & at 100mg it will be very effective at doing so.

I keep on hearing contradicting things on msten. I have no experience with it so I'm kinda in the dark but how is the bloat . Some people say its really dry others say different

 

[Mumbles01]

I've fallows logs of people using msten in bulk. All have adjusted their calls 500 over maintenance and drank plenty of water & we're fine.
Just saying, tren is not what your looking for at all if your looking to bulk.

 

[Jebrook]

Okay one more question which would be better bulking cycle. I'm definitely running dmz but I don't know which one. 60mg dmz 100mg tren or 50mg dmz 20mg msten. The cost is the same so that isn't a factor also I have all of my liver support and other stuff in order

Tren + DMZ will be a lean bulk. Sten + DMZ would be an all out bulking stack. Would be dry and fairly lean. DMZ + Sten for maximum mass gain.

 

[Demgainz]

I do halo/tren for a summer shred on a 400cal deficit & it works like a charm year after year.
I'll be adding dermacrine this year just to see its benefits.

This sounds really good but I am "afraidy scerred" of tren side effects.

 

[Mumbles01]

Tren-somnia is the only thing that sorta got me. But I generally sleep really well so it was pretty minor. Maybe once a week that I woke up for a hour before passing back out.
A little inhibit-P and a good pct & you'll be alright.

 

[warlordwrug]

Tren + DMZ will be a lean bulk. Sten + DMZ would be an all out bulking stack. Would be dry and fairly lean. DMZ + Sten for maximum mass gain.

Which one would you run with slin?

 

[Jebrook]

Which one would you run with slin?

Insulin? That's outta my wheelhouse homie. Slin is dangerous if not done properly and I have no experience or education on it. Post that question in the IGF-1 forum possibly.

 

[warlordwrug]

Insulin? That's outta my wheelhouse homie. Slin is dangerous if not done properly and I have no experience or education on it. Post that question in the IGF-1 forum possibly.

I have experience with it used it quite a few times at different doses.basically I'm asking would it be better to run dmz/tren since the it'll be a lean bulk. Msten and dmz I might gain too much fat but I can always cut later anyways thanks for the advice

 

[Jebrook]

I have experience with it used it quite a few times at different doses.basically I'm asking would it be better to run dmz/tren since the it'll be a lean bulk. Msten and dmz I might gain too much fat but I can always cut later anyways thanks for the advice

DMZ + Tren would definitely be leaner, more vascularity and physique changes but still a lot of strength and mass. You can't go wrong either way IMO. 15+ either way IMO. DMZ/Tren would be slightly better on the liver also but ultimately the sides are both possibly rough either way.

 

[unreal89]

I'm running 50 mg DMZ 20 mg msten and then at 60/60/80/80/80/80

 

[unreal89]

Trenavar at 60 60 80 80 80 80

 

[Bunshichi]

It may be possible you need to up the tren. Some people tend to only feel it at higher doses.