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stage1

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okay ive heard people asking about mass cycles, cutting cycles, lean mass cycles and strength cycles.

would it be too greedy fo me to want a cycle where i put on a notable amount of muscle and increased strength while avoiding bloat and fat??? i ran a sust/ winny cycle a month ago.made some good gains and stayed lean but no way would i say that i was extreemly pleased with the amount of muscle i put on.

would a cycle like the one below make sense or would i be totally stupid to run it.

weeks 1-4 :- 50mg androl (anapalon 50) e.d
1000mg sust (500mg mon & thurs)

weeks 5-8 :- 1000mg sust (500mg mon & thurs)

weeks 9-10 :- 1000mg sust (500mg mon & thurs)
50mg winny e.o.d

my theory behind the cycle is the anapalon 50's will kick start the cycle and give me good strength, the sust will be the base giving me good size and strength and winny will be used at the end to even out the water retention.

big cats anadrol profile says "To even out the massive water retention one might choose to stack it with trenbolone (finaplix/parabolan) or stanazolol (Winstrol/Stromba) but never for the purpose of looking lean"

this is exactly what i want so does it all make sense or have i lost myself somewhere???
 
You have the right idea but I WOULDN'T run this. When running multi-ester blends that include prop you need to inject EOD. The winny at the end is a good idea. The drol really isn't needed for a second cycle. I would run something like this but I follow alot of ALR's protocol.
week 1-8 250 sust EOD
week 7-10 50mg winny EOD by depot
week 11 start pct and I would recomend an aromatase inhibitor through out the cycle

*on a side note ALR has a very interesting protocol for running drol and sust at BB.com
 
That is a pretty heavy cycle for no two unless your a very large man already. Having said that I would adgust it down a little. drol is not a beginers drug at all like bad rad said. His cycle looks better two except I that I don't like sust. It doesn't work as intended and doesn't work well for us ether. I would try something like
30 to 40mf of dbol weeks 1 to 5
600mg test cyp a week weeks 1 to 14
400mg a week deca weeks 1 to 13 (or you can use EQ with leaner but less results)
250iu of HCG twice a week weeks 5 to 15
Start pct week 16 with 40mg of nolvadex ed for two weeks then 20mg for another 2 weeks.
JMO
 
a mate of mine who is very expeienced with aas has advised me to take a cycle simialir to the one i proposed above but with a few alterations.

weeks 1-4 : anadrol 150, test enanthate 1000mg
weeks 5-8 : test enanthate 1000mg
weeks 9-10: trenbolene (cant remember dosage) and test enanthate 1000mg

is the above advisable? im not too keen on deca, it shuts me down very hard.
 
stage1 said:
a mate of mine who is very expeienced with aas has advised me to take a cycle simialir to the one i proposed above but with a few alterations.

weeks 1-4 : anadrol 150, test enanthate 1000mg
weeks 5-8 : test enanthate 1000mg
weeks 9-10: trenbolene (cant remember dosage) and test enanthate 1000mg

is the above advisable? im not too keen on deca, it shuts me down very hard.
your wanting to run a gram of test a week and the same in drol and your worried about deca? I would rethink that one although it will blow you up. I guess I misunderstood your cycle history, you have at least a couple I guess so if you want to run the drol that fine but I would start at the low dosage and work up to an effecive dose. Two weeks on the fina is worthless or nearly so IMO. If you want to run something like this with the fina to harden at the end I would use 6 weeks worth.
test, your desired dosage here weeks 1 to 10
Drol 50 to 150mg ED weeks 1 to 5
fina 50 to 100mg ed weeks 6 to 12
PCT week 13.
HCG would not hurt here at all.
JM2C
 
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