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I am 33, 5' 6", 185 lbs and 16% bf.
My goal over the next year is 200 lbs, 8-10% bf.
I am looking at starting my next cycle Jan 1
I am looking at 16 wks deca 600/wk. test 1200/wk, anavar 90/day.
I want to clean bulk. I do not want to bulk then cut. Should I change this and or add tren sust or anything. Looking for advise.
 
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I am 33, 5' 6", 185 lbs and 16% bf.
My goal over the next year is 200 lbs, 8-10% bf.
I am looking at starting my next cycle Jan 1
I am looking at 16 wks deca 600/wk. test 1200/wk, anavar 90/day.
I want to clean bulk. I do not want to bulk then cut. Should I change this and or add tren sust or anything. Looking for advise.
How many cycles have you ran? Test at over a gram a week is a lot. Also if you are bulking why anavar and not dbol, tbol or Anadrol?
 
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I have ran many cycles and I want a real clean bulk. I would rather grow less than put on fat or water bulk.
 
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I have ran test at 900 mg/ wk. do you think maybe I should cut this one back to 900?
 
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I think deca may be the wrong choice for your goals. Tren, primo, or eq may be a better alternative.

Also is that 16 weeks of var?
 
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Ok. I probably won't do var for 16 weeks being that it's an oral. What do you think about eight weeks of test 900 and deca 600 and then switch to tren test var for eight weeks. Or is that fighting myself I have a month to decide so I'm just looking for advise on cycles. I have test deca var dbol and winstrol on hand. So I want to utilize some of that and order whatever else I need. And to be honest I have cycled a half dozen times in the past 10 years and it has always been some sort of combination of deca test tren winny or var. so I don't have much knowledge of anything else but I want to see what's best. I'm not stuck on my proposed cycle or even the aas that I have used. I'm open to hear what will help me achieve my goals.
 
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My plan is to add nolvadex when I start feeling gyno. Usually mid cycle and clomid and nolvadex post cycle. I'm looking into hcg but I see comments that are complete opposite on using it for pct. so I'm researching it. I didn't have a cruise plan. I have a buddy that swears by cruising. What are your thoughts.
 
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I am 33, 5' 6", 185 lbs and 16% bf.
My goal over the next year is 200 lbs, 8-10% bf.
I am looking at starting my next cycle Jan 1
I am looking at 16 wks deca 600/wk. test 1200/wk, anavar 90/day.
I want to clean bulk. I do not want to bulk then cut. Should I change this and or add tren sust or anything. Looking for advise.
My plan is to add nolvadex when I start feeling gyno. Usually mid cycle and clomid and nolvadex post cycle. I'm looking into hcg but I see comments that are complete opposite on using it for pct. so I'm researching it. I didn't have a cruise plan. I have a buddy that swears by cruising. What are your thoughts.
Something sounds a bit off here to me. 6 cycles and your only 185? Before you start I'd be looking at your diet and training. You will need an AI like exemstane and a dopamine agonist like cabergoline or pramipexole. You can use nolva on cycle but if you control estrogen and prolactin guno should be able to be avoided.
 
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I have ran test at 900 mg/ wk. do you think maybe I should cut this one back to 900?
I personally think so. I ran sus at 1gram a week one time and had horrible sides. I still have acne scars.... I haven't done that since and I haven't ever had sides like I did when I ran a gram.
 
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Yes I'm 185 lbs. I'm also 5' 6". And I ran my first five cycles when I was younger. I took 7 years off and just ran another one this summer. I'm looking to run a smarter cycle tho and I want to bulk clean and lean.
 
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Yes I'm 185 lbs. I'm also 5' 6". And I ran my first five cycles when I was younger. I took 7 years off and just ran another one this summer. I'm looking to run a smarter cycle tho and I want to bulk clean and lean.
To clean bulk you have to be very dialled in with your diet, knowing exactly what you need and nothing more. In saying that for your goals I would suggest test tren and mast.
Something like
Test 250mg weeks 1-14
Tren ace 400mg weeks 1-10
Mast prop 400mg weeks 1-12
You could throw in var for 6 weeks starting week 10 and run it all the way through until the day before pct.

^^^ with trens feed efficiency properties and its ability to drop bodyfat it would be perfect for what your aiming for. I would however get hcg and run it 250iu e3d to aid in your recovery.
 
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To clean bulk you have to be very dialled in with your diet, knowing exactly what you need and nothing more. In saying that for your goals I would suggest test tren and mast.
Something like
Test 250mg weeks 1-14
Tren ace 400mg weeks 1-10
Mast prop 400mg weeks 1-12
You could throw in var for 6 weeks starting week 10 and run it all the way through until the day before pct.

^^^ with trens feed efficiency properties and its ability to drop bodyfat it would be perfect for what your aiming for. I would however get hcg and run it 250iu e3d to aid in your recovery.
X2...this is exactly what u should do for your goals. Luke knows his sh*t
 
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I do have 5000 iu hcg on hand. I will run this cycle just as you say.
And I have actually been researching body recomposition diets. What do you think of that.
 
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I do have 5000 iu hcg on hand. I will run this cycle just as you say.
And I have actually been researching body recomposition diets. What do you think of that.
Like Lean gains? Works wonders for me personally.
 
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I do have 5000 iu hcg on hand. I will run this cycle just as you say.
And I have actually been researching body recomposition diets. What do you think of that.
Also what test are you suggesting p a or e
Most of the diets strategies out there work, provided your consistent. Lean gains, carb cycling, keto diets take your pick just make sure you stick with it.
I'd use test e, your only really using test for man functions so 250mg is plenty. Add it to your first pin of the week and your set.
 

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@the Phoenix You do realize this is a 6yr old thread right?

These guys probably not even around anymore or probably not even cycling..
 
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To clean bulk you have to be very dialled in with your diet, knowing exactly what you need and nothing more. In saying that for your goals I would suggest test tren and mast.
Something like
Test 250mg weeks 1-14
Tren ace 400mg weeks 1-10
Mast prop 400mg weeks 1-12
You could throw in var for 6 weeks starting week 10 and run it all the way through until the day before pct.

^^^ with trens feed efficiency properties and its ability to drop bodyfat it would be perfect for what your aiming for. I would however get hcg and run it 250iu e3d to aid in your recovery.
My personal tweak to this would be 3-350test/wk wks 1-10, 250 wks 11-14
300mg primo/wk wks 1-14
300mg eq/wk wks 1-14
Proviron 50mg first 3wks and 25mg last 4wks.
That would be clean gains and the proviron will really let the combo of other compounds really shine, esp in the last 4wks as you cut calories and work your friggin arse off on a deficit.
 

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My personal tweak to this would be 3-350test/wk wks 1-10, 250 wks 11-14
300mg primo/wk wks 1-14
300mg eq/wk wks 1-14
Proviron 50mg first 3wks and 25mg last 4wks.
That would be clean gains and the proviron will really let the combo of other compounds really shine, esp in the last 4wks as you cut calories and work your friggin arse off on a deficit.
did you not read what TMloc just said???
 

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@chem.jr. We bout ton call you mister hijack for real though 😂
 
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did you not read what TMloc just said???
@chem.jr. We bout ton call you mister hijack for real though
Omg, im otw to go kick my own ass right now. Damn! Thx for calling me on that ish boys. Gd! Must've take one of the wrong pills or something lol

(Had just seen it at top of the feed and was like "well, if it were me- blahhhhh!" I have a serious stomach& mouth condition known as word vomit or oral diarrhea. Sorry you guys pay the price.)
 

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Omg, im otw to go kick my own ass right now. Damn! Thx for calling me on that ish boys. Gd! Must've take one of the wrong pills or something lol

(Had just seen it at top of the feed and was like "well, if it were me- blahhhhh!" I have a serious stomach& mouth condition known as word vomit or oral diarrhea. Sorry you guys pay the price.)
lol i was just pickin at ya! I got about halfway thru the thread before i saw the date lol
 

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