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NewAgeMayan said:
The idea behind exfoliating soap (basically a sand soap, Evomuse sells one) and exfoliating gloves is that when you shower and use them, you are are trying to prime the application area by removing dead skin.

I wouldnt do this straight after applying the product, as it may negatively disrupt the absorption process.

Best to do it prior to applying, or some time after it.
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makes sense thank u
 
I wonder if you can get the micro dermal abrasion treatment on places other than your face, that would probably help loads for absorption, can you imagine going into a salon; hello sir your booked in for the mda therapy? Yes, that's right now do it on my shoulders, inner biceps, tops of my feet, chest....etc
 
Just finished a back/bi workout and my **** was pumped. I'll take a pic in a little when I'm not all pumped to show a little transformation so far
 
Guys, those DMSO studies are from the 1960s. The test gel is 2000s.

The DMSO studies are murine, rats. Rats have comparatively very thin, easily permeable skin.

Its potentially encouraging, but personally until I can access the full texts then Im still dubious as to the guys 100% absorption claims. He had products he was obviously trying to talk up.
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Guys, those DMSO studies are from the 1960s. The test gel is 2000s.

The DMSO studies are murine, rats. Rats have comparatively very thin, easily permeable skin.

Its potentially encouraging, but personally until I can access the full texts then Im still dubious as to the guys 100% absorption claims. He had products he was obviously trying to talk up.
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i have hope lol.
u Mr hope crusher hahaha
 
hamdysayed said:
i have hope lol.
u Mr hope crusher hahaha
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Itll work man, if its dosed as he said.

Dermatrest works, so does dermacrine, sup3r 11, and androgel. And theyre all subject to the same restrictions.

5mg bioavailble testosterone works. Again, AGAIN, lol, Im sure this td tren will too.
 
Y'all are gonna hate me but I've literally taken no body pics since about a month after I got off cycle. I have a very comparable pic from before my last cycle. Love handles and back fat came back with a vengeance. Couldn't see my abs a week ago, but I did just shave 3 days ago for better absorption.

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End of cycle and 2nd pic was after I got all the water weight off. So hoping to get back to this before the test and bold even kick in. TRENFTW
 
So the 1st pics are now and how long did you say you've been on the tren for?sorry bro I'm a bit lost with the order of the pics my phones playing up
 
Sorry let me reword everything. I have no recent pics except for the ones I took just now (which are the 2nd and 3rd pic of the first set of pics. The very first pic is of a comparable body composition that I was 1-2 weeks ago. & the 2nd two pics are of me at the end of my last cycle (which I hope to get to in 3 weeks) sorry for the confusion guys
 
You can defo see the difference, and 6 days on the Td tren?! Wow your in for some gains bro, you'll be back to the way you look in the last pic in no time!
 
solidsnake said:
You can defo see the difference, and 6 days on the Td tren?! Wow your in for some gains bro, you'll be back to the way you look in the last pic in no time!
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I wish I had an actual picture from last Sunday before I started. It's nothing crazy like the last pics but point is the stuff is uncovering my muscle rather rapidly. 2nd and 3rd week should be very interesting. I'll be starting a log for the whole cycle soon
 
mike33511 said:
Yes, you do. You just don't know it yet.
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Pinning is great but we can't all do it due to circumstances. Take me for instance; yes i have pinned in the past but now i work offshore so I can't take needles, also we do get tested for roids often so I need something either undetectable or some that clears your system fast. Td test and tren both no ester are perfect for me
 
solidsnake said:
Pinning is great but we can't all do it due to circumstances. Take me for instance; yes i have pinned in the past but now i work offshore so I can't take needles, also we do get tested for roids often so I need something either undetectable or some that clears your system fast. Td test and tren both no ester are perfect for me
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I completely understand. Not passing judgment at all.

I get horrible BP sides off orals, so I will most likely be switching to injectables exclusively starting with my next cycle. And I'm on TRT, so the needles aren't an issue for me.
 
This TD tren/test stuff is pretty interesting. Going to have to find some for myself and give it a shot I think!
This topic is a great read, lots of good info in here
 
deepseajs said:
This TD tren/test stuff is pretty interesting. Going to have to find some for myself and give it a shot I think!
This topic is a great read, lots of good info in here
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Judging by your name your in the same industry as me bro?
 
Doing a bit of research on DMSO, stuff does look very good in a TD setting. My old mate Pat Arnold gives it the thumbs up.

But Im wondering, why didnt Pat utilise it in his topicals, and why hasnt it found favour in the pharma industry?

Firstly, it seems to really shine when used with compounds that are considered not ideal for transdermal use, due to the high dalton number/molar mass. Test and tren are not considered high.

The safety studies Ive looked at show it is low toxicity, and doesnt pose a danger when used as directed. The only things that I can find that might indicate its unsuitability in a commercial setting are the potential unpleasant odour (sulphurous), and skin irritation.

I take it as obvious that an unpleasant smelling topical, and one that could irritate your skin, is not ideal for pharma. Pat Arnold said as much himself why he didnt use it in his products.

If most UGL customers are like myself, though:

Gainz > bit smelly/skin irritation

Ive read a few ways the skin irritability factor can be reduced during manufacture, hopefully the UGL brewer has done his homework.

Link to MSDS. Section 11 goes into the possible odours (garlic-onion-oyster smell on skin and/or breath):
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I believe the whole thing has 7 ingredients. Lots of things to counteract the irritation since I have zero. Maybe a little tingle during application but that's it. It does smell weird though for sure
 
Yes it goes away. Smells the worse during workouts when you're sweating a lot. Smells like your body is sweating garlic juice
 
Just tell people you work at an Indian restaurant and you spend most of the day peeling onions
 
I completely understand, I had this stuff for a month before I used it lol I had a tweaked pec and it was torcher looking at all my goodies
 
starting my cycle next week some time, going to apply 1ml. a day all at once for 8 wks, going to try the hand sanitizer idea about 15 min after application and see if that increases absorption rate. Will start a log as well when I get this going.
 
Even though I find about .3 to be right where I start to have too much to spread around

The stuff isn't like traditional transdermals. It's runny like water
 
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And will leave your hands with this yellow glow. Haha it's just the actual tren powder though, could use gloves but why risk leaving some of the good stuff stuck to the rubber?
 
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