Newbie, AH or AM 9 week lean Bulk

bean5er

bean5er

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A little background first, im 30 years old and just got done getting back into shape (since June) from 220lbs@20% body fat, currently 175lbs between 6-8% body fat. I used a couple natty supps towards the end but most of that was just using staples and getting my diet right.

In the mean time I've been stocking up on supps here is my list that I have, obviously not using them all together just stock piling since I had the extra cash

Anabeta-2 bottles
Free-test-2 bottles
IGF-2-2 bottles
Neovar-1 big bottle
AlphaT2-2 bottles
Erase- 2 bottles
Andro Hard- 1 bottle
Andro Mass-1 bottle
Toco-8-60 days worth
Sustain Alpha LV-2 bottles

I am starting a 9 week lean bulk on Monday , and was originally going to stagger start and stack AB, free test, Igf2 and sustain alpha ( my T levels came back really low IMO I have the number if anyone wants it). Couldn't pass up the deal PP was having so I picked up AM and AH. After my 9 weeks I'll be cutting back down for a trip to Hawaii in June. Was wondering what some thoughts were for my lean bulk stack combos, dosing, etc all input is greatly appreciated in advance! Please ask questions as I probably left something out!
 
whoa thats alot of supps. hope yoru diet is good, and you didnt dedicate all yotu time to the supps
 
Blergs said:
whoa thats alot of supps. hope yoru diet is good, and you didnt dedicate all yotu time to the supps
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Appreciate the concern but as stated above I've worked my ass off getting back into shape basically using nothing but staples and a sound diet and in the process have learned a lot about nutrition, so no I'm not wasting my time and these supps are a stockpile for future use and goals. I know they aren't magic they are just that supplements and without proper diet and intense training wont do much, but I have been reading log after log finding the ones that interested me and want to see what I can do in future with these as supplements only not relying on them by any means. Thanks for the response :-)
 
So are you saying you are going to run either AM or AH for 9 weeks?
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
So are you saying you are going to run either AM or AH for 9 weeks?
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No sorry just wondering what some options would be was pretty sold on running AM for 4 weeks but was wondering if I should add it in after running free test and anabeta or just running it solo for 4 weeks then start in IGF2, free-test, and anabeta sustain alpha? Or I can just save AM and AH for another bulk next fall.
 
Well definitely don't stack your test boosters with your AM (im sure you know that).
Kinda iffy on what to tell you. I like having as much help as possible when natty, so I want to say run a t-booster before your cycle. But at the same time, it could be a waste of money since 4 weeks later your t levels will be low thanks to the suppression...
I would say save the t-boosters for post cycle.
Btw, if you have AM and AH v3, AM has a half dose of AH in it, so stacking the two would allow you to run your AH at half dose...could possibly turn that 4 week into a 6 week by running the AH at full dose for 2 weeks either before or after the AM, and keeping it half dose when you run AM.
 
nah not a waste of time. androseries arent that suppressive. I would take Free Test + IGF 2 + AB ...once thats done, take a break for a bit then take your androseries cycle. i would take DAA on cycle to make the transition to PCT even easier. Matt Porter showed me this idea in another thread and explained it. for PCT, take your toco 8, Sustain Alpha, DAA and possibly IGF 2. there are so many possibilities with all the stuff you have. i can give you a million options, just dont want to make it even harder on you lol
 
Id prob save the 8 weeks of anabeta till after the cycle that should really help you keep all you gained from the cycle if not keep growing it's good stuff
 
R1balla said:
nah not a waste of time. androseries arent that suppressive. I would take Free Test + IGF 2 + AB ...once thats done, take a break for a bit then take your androseries cycle. i would take DAA on cycle to make the transition to PCT even easier. Matt Porter showed me this idea in another thread and explained it. for PCT, take your toco 8, Sustain Alpha, DAA and possibly IGF 2. there are so many possibilities with all the stuff you have. i can give you a million options, just dont want to make it even harder on you lol
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Ya think im just going to stick to my original plan and save androseries for my next bulk! With the extra cash couldn't resist the 40% off lol.

Question as my T levels are already low I know u mentioned toco 8 and SA after my natty stack, are those ok to run consistently kind of as a staple? Probably a dumb question but I didn't notice "on-off " suggestions in what I read about them, I might have missed that.
 
Toco-8 is fine to run all the time. SA is suggested to be run 5 on 2 off.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Toco-8 is fine to run all the time. SA is suggested to be run 5 on 2 off.
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Thanks, I forgot to mention I did know about 5 on 2 off. I appreciate the info
 
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