new with ph's but working out for years

doodz

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hey everyone! i've been working out for the past 7 years,and i decided to add a little extra help in my routine and wanted to try ph's.been reading about ph's for a while,since im a newbie with ph's i was wondering what would be a good ph to use for a first time?? i was thinking LG science methyl 1D or just use the stack that they have(methyl 1d,masterdrol and formadrol).all the reviews that i read around the web say that is not too bad,other ppl didnt notice anything while on this stack,and others had great results,what do you guys think??what can i use as a PCT?what about what about NRG-x labs 1,4 andro maxx?????? thanks in advance!
PS:im 27,my diet is clean,i eat around 3000_3500 calories.
 
Hdrol, Epistane are solid options. i would suggest one of the androseries products. they are expensive, but reps usually have a discount coupon you can use and they are a lot safer than other PHs
 
doodz said:
I'm gonna check the androseries! Any advice on the LG methyl 1d???
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yeah, dont waste you money on m1d. androseries is a good choice for starting out
 
doodz said:
I'm gonna check the androseries! Any advice on the LG methyl 1d???
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waste of money.

even though the androseries are expensive, you dont have to buy PCT Support or Cycle Support....and you dont need a SERM unless you are going to do andromass with androbulk for 8 weeks. then i would suggest a SERM
 
Yeah I got 4 more weeks...
I'm
190-192 I wanna push it to 200!!!
 
I ran LG's old trifecta stack and it didn't feel like I was takign anything but pills and stuff that tasted really weird.

My first PH run was Hdrol. Pretty cheap PH. Stacked with some liver/kidney/heart protection.

I ran it at 50/50/75/75/100/100 and made about 8lbs of gains. Got REALLY strong. My suggestion would be to keep eating the food throughout the cycle and PCT. And don't get discouraged after the cycle, keep the motivation high and push.

Right now the cheapest Hdrol clone out would probably be Helladrol from MrSupps. Other first time PHs are Epistane, and maybe something like Katanadrol (furuza)... but I have always seen Katanadrol stacked. Epistane is good for strength and mass if you are eating enough.
 
mattrag said:
I ran LG's old trifecta stack and it didn't feel like I was takign anything but pills and stuff that tasted really weird.

My first PH run was Hdrol. Pretty cheap PH. Stacked with some liver/kidney/heart protection.

I ran it at 50/50/75/75/100/100 and made about 8lbs of gains. Got REALLY strong. My suggestion would be to keep eating the food throughout the cycle and PCT. And don't get discouraged after the cycle, keep the motivation high and push.

Right now the cheapest Hdrol clone out would probably be Helladrol from MrSupps. Other first time PHs are Epistane, and maybe something like Katanadrol (furuza)... but I have always seen Katanadrol stacked. Epistane is good for strength and mass if you are eating enough.
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I mostly heard people using epi for a cut.
 
Andro series looks solid. I liked epi in the past. You should also look into Taurus Nutrition's 5aohp or M1P. Both non-methylated, little to no sides, good results.
 
Thanks for all the responses guys,when I get home I'm gonna check all the products ya'll mentioned and decide wich one is best for me! If u have more suggestions just lemme know guys!
 
The search button is your friend.

ManBeast
 
im reading a few blogs about andromass,for what people write seems like it work like roids!! really??10-15 lbs of muscle!!!!
 
helladrol would be a great starting ph... you will have the most gains with the least amount of sides... I can help you set up a cycle for it if you need... check out my helladrol log and see the kind of progress i made on it...
 
I'm probably gonna get more flack for being the guy to say this but... If you want to use the pp androseries, that is a good, safe route to get your feet wet as dhea based hormones are really mild on the organs.

Otherwise, skip the methyl prohormone crap and just run 500mg test e for 14 weeks and get the keepable gains and strength that you are really looking for.
 
thats was suppose to be my plan at first! run some test but the guy who could get me some test couldnt get me nolva or clomid! and theres no way im starting test without having nolva or clomid in hand.
 
I think AndroMass would a great starter PH, I do think two bottles you would benefit more from :)
 
nolva and clomid are both research chemicals...

ManBeast
 
Manbeast just solved your serm issue. Run test.
 
doodz said:
what website have the best deal for andromass?
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First check this planet, then check google :)

:cheers:
 
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