New some advice on cycle

btown123

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I just joined the site yesterday and have been browsing for hours trying to gain some information on the best way to begin my cycle.

I'm 21 years old and weigh 187 lbs. I've been lifting since I was 15 years old and started lifting heavy about 2 years ago. I just got Sustanon 325 and was told to do a 1ml pin once a week for 10 weeks (i only have 10 ml). From what I've been reading it seems that doing it twice a week at half the dose would possibly lower the side effects and increase the gains that I can make.

Previous to this I have only done one cycle of just Dbol for 6 weeks at 50mg a day which from what I have now found out wasn't exactly the best choice

Any information you can give me would be much appreciated - whether its additional supplements I should be taking or dosages, anything would be great.

Thanks
 
heres some help...do more research...
you dont have an actual question here you just want people to give you a broad overview of what you should be doing on cycle? thats pure laziness....go read...
 
Well I was simply looking for an answer along the lines of yes do it once a week or no do it twice a week. This is my first inject cycle so I'm assuming that I am in no huge need to pin as many times to get good results. And I was curious if I should be on nolva or not. Some posts say yes and some say no ... so advice from someone who has experience would be appreciated.
 
Well I was simply looking for an answer along the lines of yes do it once a week or no do it twice a week. This is my first inject cycle so I'm assuming that I am in no huge need to pin as many times to get good results. And I was curious if I should be on nolva or not. Some posts say yes and some say no ... so advice from someone who has experience would be appreciated.

well we could be here alnight tryn to catch you up b4 you make a big mistake but i dont have that kind of time and i see you dont have those paitence.

since you already have the gear, and not the knowlege, I will tell you what i think is the most important.

sustanon has four esters, 1-long lasting, 2-med. lasting, and 1-short

personaly i think e3d is how is should b pinned, to get full effect of the short ester. but twice a week will do.

I wouldnt waste my money or time with 250mg a week, you wont see much
500mg at least 250mon. 250thurs.

and yes you definatley need a pct. nolva/clomid a.i. post cycle support or something man!

but the biggest advice is already been stated by very respected mooch........start reading, listening!!!
 
I just joined the site yesterday and have been browsing for hours trying to gain some information on the best way to begin my cycle.

I'm 21 years old and weigh 187 lbs. I've been lifting since I was 15 years old and started lifting heavy about 2 years ago. I just got Sustanon 325 and was told to do a 1ml pin once a week for 10 weeks (i only have 10 ml). From what I've been reading it seems that doing it twice a week at half the dose would possibly lower the side effects and increase the gains that I can make.

Previous to this I have only done one cycle of just Dbol for 6 weeks at 50mg a day which from what I have now found out wasn't exactly the best choice

Any information you can give me would be much appreciated - whether its additional supplements I should be taking or dosages, anything would be great.

Thanks

21yr. 187lb. dude you still got naturall growin to do if you ask me. do your body a favor and research, grow somemore. then when your about 200 and have a solid cycle plan. then hit the juice. happy growin
 
well we could be here alnight tryn to catch you up b4 you make a big mistake but i dont have that kind of time and i see you dont have those paitence.

since you already have the gear, and not the knowlege, I will tell you what i think is the most important.

sustanon has four esters, 1-long lasting, 2-med. lasting, and 1-short

personaly i think e3d is how is should b pinned, to get full effect of the short ester. but twice a week will do.

I wouldnt waste my money or time with 250mg a week, you wont see much
500mg at least 250mon. 250thurs.

and yes you definatley need a pct. nolva/clomid a.i. post cycle support or something man!

but the biggest advice is already been stated by very respected mooch........start reading, listening!!!

I have sustanon 325 - should i just pin less then 1ml and stick with under 500mg a week? From what I've read it says that 300mg a week is pretty good for starters so I don't want to go overboard. I appreciate the advice I'm looking into a PCT right now. Is it best to order them online or try to get through a doctor?
 
I have sustanon 325 - should i just pin less then 1ml and stick with under 500mg a week? From what I've read it says that 300mg a week is pretty good for starters so I don't want to go overboard. I appreciate the advice I'm looking into a PCT right now. Is it best to order them online or try to get through a doctor?

I would pin 1ml. e3d about 650 a week but thats me. if you was stacking with something you might want to go less but this would be better than 1ml. ew. IMO
 
Mooch, John I have taken both of your adivice and done my research and
would like some critique and suggestions please.

I plan on getting another 10ml vial and running this cycle:

Weeks 1-10 .75 mL sustanon 325 Mon/Thur
Weeks 7-10 20 mg winstrol ED
Then 3 weeks after last pin start PCT

Weeks 1-4 PCT 50mg Clomid ED
Then if needed;
Weeks 5-6 PCT 25mg Clomid ED
I'm also going to get Nolva just incase of Gyno signs - what I am most curious about and have seen many different answer too is how much Nolva I should take (40 mg ED seems pretty universal) and for how long is should last. Do I continue my cycle if signs appear? And assuming they dissappear it seems that I should just finish the cycle.

The reason for the only twice weekly pinning is because I want to take it decently easy and not do too much of an overkill for my 1st inject cycle.

One last question is will I need any hcg for pct?
 
LOL, dot do it bro! you obviously have no idea what your doing!!! your 21 like me man, our natural test levels are so freaking high we are pratically on steroids naturally. Dont mess with your super high natural test levels and bring them down permanently by roiding it! just my 2 cents
 
I would pick up some cycle support for when your on cycle, help control all those nasty sides.

As for people that input without saying anything productive, stop... its annoying for people seeking real advice
 
Ya know, 21 is still young! Do what you want to do but no matter what any f*cking body says there is still risk in what we are doing. Education helps to minimize these risks...I know. Me, Im 37...had all the kids I'm gonna have and it still freaks me out that my nuts shrunk a little on my cycle. Just trying to keep it real boys.....it ain't like we are talking about taking aspirin! Guess I just went in to Dad mode didn't I?
 
Ya know, 21 is still young! Do what you want to do but no matter what any f*cking body says there is still risk in what we are doing. Education helps to minimize these risks...I know. Me, Im 37...had all the kids I'm gonna have and it still freaks me out that my nuts shrunk a little on my cycle. Just trying to keep it real boys.....it ain't like we are talking about taking aspirin! Guess I just went in to Dad mode didn't I?

Haha, I can completely understand where you are coming from and realize your concerns but all I really have to say is take a look at your own quote! I've been pushing my self as hard as I can 5 days a week for a long time and peaked out at this weight for the past 2 years.

Lopips what cycle support do you recommend?
 
life support by AI

but i still say dont do it.... Your 21 bro. Roiding it will only hinder you not help you! Oh you already did roids before though huh? never mind.
 
life support by AI

but i still say dont do it.... Your 21 bro. Roiding it will only hinder you not help you! Oh you already did roids before though huh? never mind.

So do i take this the entire time I'm on the cycle? and should i follow the doses it says 2 in the am and 2 in the pm?
 
yeah the whole time your on cycle. some people preload the week before the cycle. Take it at sepreate times away from your PH doeses
 
life support is a good one...i like more hawethorn tho....i dont see results till i hit 3grams a day....as for your estrogen questions...i would look at using an ai on cycle instead of nolva for gyno probs....nolva competes at the receptor sites and can inhibit gains....save your nolva for pct
 
formestane is probably gonna be a little too strong for an on cycle ai....try arimidex or aromasin....
 
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