thanks for checking on those two ph's, imo those are what ph's should be, actual precursor's, very safe, not overly powerful, very good stuff, I really hope you guys can keep both of them.
I do hope an ara stand alone product may be in the mix, that is one of the better non-hormonals I have used. I agree that herbal test boosters are abit hard, to be honest I think most do little more than boost libido, and offer little in the way of body comp changes. If I want libido boost I will get a product for that, when I think test boost I want muscle gain, and in general, if it isnt a sexual helper, or mood enhancer, I dont want my supplements I buy for muscle growth/strength increase/body comp changes to list those as primary benefits. I knwo those are part of having higher test ranges, but that is not why I am willing to pay for them. Not ranting on you cel, love your products and the way you conduct business and yourself on the forums, just stating a problem with what I see when people review these t-boosters. By the way, maybe what are your thougths on fadoggia?