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new member!... worried about T level.

Cool, ill take a look at those.. Any "reliable testing kits" I can buy to test the water in our house? Is there any that test for everything? I.e. Clhoride, calcium, ion, fluoride, soidum the lot? Do I actually need to test for everything..?
 
Been looking at those berkley water filters are they legit?
they will remove other stuff not the fluoride though,.. Isnt there a way to just combat fluoride build up, or restore balance, i.e. Something to take along with a "standard portable filter?..
 
Idk if you realise this, but the link you sent me, according to that site im well under the normal range for 95% of the population my age.. Did you actually read the tables??
 
mumbles12 said:
Idk if you realise this, but the link you sent me, according to that site im well under the normal range for 95% of the population my age.. Did you actually read the tables??
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you posted :
serum testosterone
(SCL) normal_satisfactory. 21.5nmol/L. (11_40)



first chart 25-34 males mean of 21.38
standard deviation 5.9

second chart
under 25 mean 23.97
standard deviation 5.48



21.5 you vs 21.38 vs 23.97 and in all cases you are within 1 standard deviation.
you also dd not state what time of day you had the blood drawn. if you had it drawn at any time other than first thing in the morning then your measurement was low and would be higher if taken at 8am.

your problem is NOT quantity of testosterone. you can chase then umber all you want, but you should be looking at symptoms NOT numbers.
 
Test was about 9.30am..

I see what you mean I get the impression your saying im in the middle because im basically just inbetween the numbers on the table, but I cant help but notice the 95% which is usually 800 to 900 for all the age groups on that table, happens to actually mean like 95% of the population? Whereas a low 300approx would be 5% and so on,.. Thats some wierd **** it doesnt make sense to me lol... Its like saying anyone who isnt 900+ is around 300 and thats only like 5% of the male popluation...(scratches head*)
 
mumbles12 said:
Where do they get the no. From the? Why not just put the no. That 95% of popluation actually is? Doesnt make sense.
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Playing number game is going to back fire. I have seen lab test from thousand's of guys and in the beginning I was same mentality. Your T is low blah blah. Now I have learned that micromanaging hormones is dangerous. People get the blinders on and are so focus with numbers and spread sheets. Its like they are on the quest for the flipping holy grail or as David Dunn put it chase the rabbit down the rabbit hole. You become this human hamster in a wheel keeping going round and round. Five years you go back to the forums same, people same problem, still biatching about same old thing..I have done it several times on forums, booked marked and then came back to same place. Guess what I found !! same people still complaining. My approach is to break the cycle for people get them thinking out side the box by using one of the most powerful tools dr's forget about ...Common sense.
 
Where can I find this... "Common Sense" you speak of? ;)

Just kidding, im not trying to be annoying either with alls these questions, but I obviously worry too mcuh about this..
I think im just going have get back into training, obviously I want to start putting weight on now though, granted Im probs gonna build up calories slowly, say 500 evey 3 months or so, cant go wrong then fat wise.. specially being an ecto.

Im gonna get one of those berkley filters as I cant get an RO system installed :(, isnt there some way to just "detox" the fluoride every once in a while? a good jug filter should be ok for chlorine and all that other ****e shoudnt it?

A thing about eating more.... Is it a bad idea to stock up on thing like olive oil? particularly if your trying to get to the 3500 to 4000 calorie mark due to excess omega 6? I was struggling to maintain 160 on 2500 cals so I obviously need more, im gonna go back boxing but just do it recreational and put greater emphasis on strength? lifting.. incorporate some compound lifts 3 times a week, boxing 3 times a week, a friend wants me to do judo with him too, which would be twice a week.. so I imagine im gonna need extra calories eventually, ill start with just getting back in shape for now, then emphasise lifting, im not looking to compete in anything I just want to get bigger and stronger, but still reatain athleticism,, for me if im doing all that stuff and I can maintain 180 ill be happy, but anything lower id probs get all pissy about my weight again..

I came into this with the mentality that man is healthy, then he incoroprates training to improve, but I think the reality is... Training is mandatory, if you want to be closer to what our ancestors were actually like, as technology has changed our genetics and everything, thats why you get all these crazyskinny ectos, and obese mesos, whilst anyone naturally inbetween is just lucky in this day and age.. I know im definately not comfortable with my weight right now, ive actually lost a few pounds and im down from 145 to 140! havent been eating, and been getting a lot of late night.. I aint taking no damn anti depressants fro mthe doctor, I need to take my heath into my own hands, thats why i took the food intolerance test though, and pretty much sums up why I want to find a better way to drink water than "straight out of the tao" as I feel even that could be affecting me as I struggle to concentrate.. I cant even sit and read a book on something that interests me anymore without getting distracted.. feels like this is what the government wants to do to us?..
 
mumbles12 said:
Where can I find this... "Common Sense" you speak of? ;)

Just kidding, im not trying to be annoying either with alls these questions, but I obviously worry too mcuh about this..
I think im just going have get back into training, obviously I want to start putting weight on now though, granted Im probs gonna build up calories slowly, say 500 evey 3 months or so, cant go wrong then fat wise.. specially being an ecto.

Im gonna get one of those berkley filters as I cant get an RO system installed :(, isnt there some way to just "detox" the fluoride every once in a while? a good jug filter should be ok for chlorine and all that other ****e shoudnt it?

A thing about eating more.... Is it a bad idea to stock up on thing like olive oil? particularly if your trying to get to the 3500 to 4000 calorie mark due to excess omega 6? I was struggling to maintain 160 on 2500 cals so I obviously need more, im gonna go back boxing but just do it recreational and put greater emphasis on strength? lifting.. incorporate some compound lifts 3 times a week, boxing 3 times a week, a friend wants me to do judo with him too, which would be twice a week.. so I imagine im gonna need extra calories eventually, ill start with just getting back in shape for now, then emphasise lifting, im not looking to compete in anything I just want to get bigger and stronger, but still reatain athleticism,, for me if im doing all that stuff and I can maintain 180 ill be happy, but anything lower id probs get all pissy about my weight again..

I came into this with the mentality that man is healthy, then he incoroprates training to improve, but I think the reality is... Training is mandatory, if you want to be closer to what our ancestors were actually like, as technology has changed our genetics and everything, thats why you get all these crazyskinny ectos, and obese mesos, whilst anyone naturally inbetween is just lucky in this day and age.. I know im definately not comfortable with my weight right now, ive actually lost a few pounds and im down from 145 to 140! havent been eating, and been getting a lot of late night.. I aint taking no damn anti depressants fro mthe doctor, I need to take my heath into my own hands, thats why i took the food intolerance test though, and pretty much sums up why I want to find a better way to drink water than "straight out of the tao" as I feel even that could be affecting me as I struggle to concentrate.. I cant even sit and read a book on something that interests me anymore without getting distracted.. feels like this is what the government wants to do to us?..
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You need to look in to neurotransmitter imbalances as well as what is the potential underlying cause of why you are having these issues.
These are done by examining the immune, endocrine, environmental, structural, lifestyle, psychological imbalances which maybe hidden. People who think they can deal with it them selves are mistaken because as I found out from numerous people our judgement becomes clouded resulting in going down a specific pathway where it be just hormone, thyroid, or what ever. It is when we pull our selves out of he situation and look from to outside in then will we see the real picture unfold. I spent many years chasing my hormones, adrenals, ect through trying to hit the magic numbers on labs. No longer do I suggest this, but I do use labs as a diagnostic tool to help make the best medical sound suggestions for Dr's for their patients. This approach has worked extremely well over the past several years. It is now opening many doors to other medical professionals who have heard from other Dr's about how it has benefited their patients as well as their practice...
 
ok so how do I do that?..

And tbh from "day 1" I went into this with th assumption it could be many things not just 1 thing, it could easily be diabetes testsoterone allergy's depression etc in minor doses those things combined would surely take a great effect so im not sure its valid to say ive concentrated in one sole thing, but idk where to go or what to do..

You havent really told me my options since I opened the thread (no offence)

I already told you "i know I cant get tested on nhs" so if ive got to go somewhere then thats fine, but idk where the hell I should go or for what specifically to ask for..

it seems I need a bunch of tests (more than 3 perhaps?) that id be hard pressed to get my gp to agree to or refer me for, so knowing that
"im not entirely dense" and that im aware of this, what would be the "next" course of action, because if I switch and start researching something else like thyroid (which I got tested btw but years and years ago) then im bk to square 1..

neoro imbalances, I gotcha but dk where to go or what to do.
 
There are seven things there that I need to look into
can you break it down for me.

neurotransmitter = idk what that is or where to go

psychological = this should be saved til last imo

environmental = well what can I really do ther than filter my water and try to remove dust from my room?

Immune system = hmm I know "what" it is but not where to go or what the test would be.

endocrine = thats testing t levels, thyroid and diabetes isnt it? Which im ok on for now???

structural = a wild guess tells me you mean bone structure? In which case.. "Ive been trying to get a scan for years but the doctor wont prescribe me one at a clinic due to radiation exposure" and although my wrists are curved like rickets they wont help me". My wrists are 6.5 which although small may just be typical ecto? Its the fact that past the wrist point the forearm starts to curve inwards like rickets, not even women have wrists that curve in like that, they are also completely hairless if that means anything. Im willing to take a picture and show you if you like, (assuming you have any exp with osteo type people)...
 
mumbles12 said:
There are seven things there that I need to look into
can you break it down for me.

neurotransmitter = idk what that is or where to go

psychological = this should be saved til last imo

environmental = well what can I really do ther than filter my water and try to remove dust from my room?

Immune system = hmm I know "what" it is but not where to go or what the test would be.

endocrine = thats testing t levels, thyroid and diabetes isnt it? Which im ok on for now???

structural = a wild guess tells me you mean bone structure? In which case.. "Ive been trying to get a scan for years but the doctor wont prescribe me one at a clinic due to radiation exposure" and although my wrists are curved like rickets they wont help me". My wrists are 6.5 which although small may just be typical ecto? Its the fact that past the wrist point the forearm starts to curve inwards like rickets, not even women have wrists that curve in like that, they are also completely hairless if that means anything. Im willing to take a picture and show you if you like, (assuming you have any exp with osteo type people)...
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Where are you at in europe? I know of a guy who will help you out on all plains. I have sent several guys to him already I gave them what I thought the imbalances where. He just confirmed all of them through proper lab testing.

neurotransmitter = proper urine test as well as intrepetations

psychological = one of the most over looked factors in a persons health I have found which usually indicates source of stress

environmental = well what can I really do ther than filter my water and try to remove dust from my room?
Heavy metals, and environmental factors

Immune system =
Gi tract, liver, and hidden infections, bacteria, parasites, auto immune disorders, ect

endocrine =
thyroid, adrenals,sex hormones primary, secondary and peripheral functions

structural - physical issues or imbalances
Spine out line,
wacked on your head pituitary issues
not sleeping properly at night
proper blood flow,
any strucutural imbalnace which may be preventing the body from functioning properly
 
If you know of someone who can test me accurately on all of those things that would be awesome, and will save me going around in circles.

im in the UK remember (england). But if I had to travel I would id just have book it off work, plus ive travelled a few places in Europe so ill welcome the trip.
 
mumbles12 said:
If you know of someone who can test me accurately on all of those things that would be awesome, and will save me going around in circles.

im in the UK remember (england). But if I had to travel I would id just have book it off work, plus ive travelled a few places in Europe so ill welcome the trip.
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I wish I could find an open minded Dr, I am sending people in london area to Dr George Mouton hes is way a head of the curve in europe in this area..
 
Not sure what you mean cus you said you know of someone so I assumer they are already open minded? Or do you mean for yourself....?

if hes in london area I can get there no probs just need an idea of price for tests etc and..
 
mumbles12 said:
Not sure what you mean cus you said you know of someone so I assumer they are already open minded? Or do you mean for yourself....?

if hes in london area I can get there no probs just need an idea of price for tests etc and..
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Dr i could work along with on cases
Call and find out. He is incredible detailed and extensive testing. For.amount you spend on traveling put towards testing. Again check him out and find if he is a good.match
 
Hi, sorry I havent been able to post since but I had to get my phone repaired (long story), im gonna google geroge mouton now.. Hes in london area you say?

is this just to sort out the neurotransmitters and check if they are imbalanced or will he be able to find the underlying cause also? Im just reffering to what you said about. Checking neurotransmitters as well as the underlying cause..

ant
 
I keep getting george mouton the french soldier lol.. Do you know the name of his website or where he works out of? Perhaps even the no.?
 
mumbles12 said:
I keep getting george mouton the french soldier lol.. Do you know the name of his website or where he works out of? Perhaps even the no.?
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Can not list Dr web sites one here.
 
mumbles12 said:
I keep getting george mouton the french soldier lol.. Do you know the name of his website or where he works out of? Perhaps even the no.?
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here is is assistants number 07949440893
He is quite pricey, especially for a student like me, i beleive it was 200 or 250 for inital consultation and that does not include all the tests you will have to pay for, then you have follow ups etc, where abouts are you in the uk?
 
jman12 said:
here is is assistants number 07949440893
He is quite pricey, especially for a student like me, i beleive it was 200 or 250 for inital consultation and that does not include all the tests you will have to pay for, then you have follow ups etc, where abouts are you in the uk?
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stoke on trent :/ ....

I dont want to have to keep paying the same 250 over and over cus I dont have that right now as such..
 
How much are each of the tests if you kno by chance??

does he have a website?

ive just stumbled across an articile on someone with chronic fatigue syndrome, and ethalane poisoning, I had to sleep for four hours , ive just woke of from aroun 14:20 as I couldnt concentrate, the implications of the article were very off putting...

"matrix" - would testing the above lead to uncovering whether conditions like this consistent in my case? In fact will the above tests to have done cover all grounds including underlying cause (not "just" neurotransmitters)?..

ant
 
jman12 said:
here is is assistants number 07949440893
He is quite pricey, especially for a student like me, i beleive it was 200 or 250 for inital consultation and that does not include all the tests you will have to pay for, then you have follow ups etc, where abouts are you in the uk?
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You do not get it done with now you won't be able to finish school I have one client who had to drop out of med school for 6 months, but she back and almost done her MD. If she did not get balanced out she would have never completed medical school..
 
The Matrix said:
You do not get it done with now you won't be able to finish school I have one client who had to drop out of med school for 6 months, but she back and almost done her MD. If she did not get balanced out she would have never completed medical school..
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Sorry to dissapoint but I already dropped out of university 18 months ago..

ive been on a downward spiral ever since trying to get something along the lines of this..

you didnt answer my question btw :/

the list of stuff you have given me to test with the neurotransmitters; once thats done is their anything else I would need to test to find underlying cause, or will these tell me everything I need to know??

I can not get something done if I dont know how much it will cost, as how do I know if I have the money, if its £250 "per individual test" then I probably "dont".

I want this more than anything in the worls right now more than anything in the world right now. I practically passed out earlier, im sleeping 12 hours a day, I feel like my body is "shutting down" if I get any thinner I will not even step outside its that embarrassing, my wrists are now the size of a womans, and I feel I could have osteomalacia, im trying to get that sorted as well "on top" of this..

its just too much to take in, if I cant fix my health id rather just kill myself because ive already given up on life in search for answers to my increasingly deteriorating condition.

I overheard my neighbour say I looked like a "smackhead" the other day, I dont know if you knoe ehat its like to be reffered to as someone who takes smack when you never took drugs before in your life but it doesnt do wonders..
 
Just rang..

Told secretary I have a list of serious symptoms, I have been going round in circles for months and monhs trying to figoure out whats qrong with me, I have chronic tiredness etc.

He said they usually star with an intial consultation, then they take a few tests "specific to the symptom" and talk to you about family history etc and health, then there is a follow up appointment with the results and it is taken from there..

the secretary did not mention pricing for seperate testing or if any is usally required,
but I am to call back tomorrow now to book an appointment as its 7pm (out of hours).

"I am just worried that depending on what symptoms I will get tested on something that is not in fact the problem" so to speak.

I will mention testing of the things matrix has pointed out when I ring tomorrow, I couldnt remember it all when I called so ill write down the list.
better to "try" and switch off now for a bit me thinks..
 
mumbles12 said:
How much are each of the tests if you kno by chance??

does he have a website?

ive just stumbled across an articile on someone with chronic fatigue syndrome, and ethalane poisoning, I had to sleep for four hours , ive just woke of from aroun 14:20 as I couldnt concentrate, the implications of the article were very off putting...

"matrix" - would testing the above lead to uncovering whether conditions like this consistent in my case? In fact will the above tests to have done cover all grounds including underlying cause (not "just" neurotransmitters)?..

ant
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Nope but i can imagine the tests are going to be pretty expensive, especially when all added up, if it costs 250 just for an initial consultation, then i could imagine its going to be a lot, here is hoping i win the lottery tonight! also keep us updates on things, i would obviously like to now how everything turns out
 
Did you not have any testing as such then?
did you turn out to have something detrimental in the end?
what kind of issues did you have if you dont mind me asking..
 
If theres one thing I might not be positive about my life and how its turned out, I am persistent wants im trying to find the answer to something, otherwise id have given up after 6 months and just gone about my life as is..
 
mumbles12 said:
Did you not have any testing as such then?
did you turn out to have something detrimental in the end?
what kind of issues did you have if you dont mind me asking..
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oh sorry i think you misunderstood me, i have not gone to see him just enquired about him after matrix recommended him. His assistant said that the costs for tests need to be taken into consideration, so to me that means it could be pretty expensive.
 
Didnt you ask how much before making a conclusion??

no matter, ill be pretty direct about it tomorrow, well both know after my next post lol
 
mumbles12 said:
Didnt you ask how much before making a conclusion??

no matter, ill be pretty direct about it tomorrow, well both know after my next post lol
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well tbf it was his Secretary and i could not load everything onto him and expect him to answer all the tests i would need, i dont even know the tests i would need for Gi etc. But yeah post back tomorrow!
 
Im about to ring and book a consul. Is there anything I need to have asked for other than the things xou have listed? Will assessing the neurotransmitters help determine "underlying cause" or are these just in addition to finding that out?

just wasnt sure of your meaning on as well as underlying cause check neuros, as you said.
 
mumbles12 said:
Im about to ring and book a consul. Is there anything I need to have asked for other than the things xou have listed? Will assessing the neurotransmitters help determine "underlying cause" or are these just in addition to finding that out?

just wasnt sure of your meaning on as well as underlying cause check neuros, as you said.
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I have dealt with people who went to him and he will go over with fine tooth comb focusing on liver pathways, neurotranmitter, GI, tract.
 
Ok cool, how comes people have had to come to you afterwards though?
seems if he can get to the root of things they wouldnt need to go to someone else too?

confused
 
mumbles12 said:
Ok cool, how comes people have had to come to you afterwards though?
seems if he can get to the root of things they wouldnt need to go to someone else too?

confused
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They just wanted a second opinon. Kind of like seal of approval LOL
Before they went to Dr mouton, I had every thing already figured out from a logical standpoint. They just needed the test to confirm it. Then once given the supplement recommendation they wanted to bounce it off me as well to see if it was a sound approach. This is common for people to ask for feed back once they have gone to Dr's from me. I work on cases along with some of the top experts in the field.
 
Ok cool, im booked in for wednesday august 1st.. Ahh I just got to thinking though... When do the olympics start?
im wondering if there will be train delays, actually im a lil paranoid about the olympics period, like some fanatic group is gonna try something... (dont ask).

Once the tests are done I guess ill get back on here with the reccomendations given to me, seems odd your guys dont do that anyway lol?
but then ill keep my mouth shut cus otherwise you might not have real life clients to cater to ;)

will these tests help establish the underlying problem as well as the neurotransmitters?
 
The Matrix said:
They just wanted a second opinon. Kind of like seal of approval LOL
Before they went to Dr mouton, I had every thing already figured out from a logical standpoint. They just needed the test to confirm it. Then once given the supplement recommendation they wanted to bounce it off me as well to see if it was a sound approach. This is common for people to ask for feed back once they have gone to Dr's from me. I work on cases along with some of the top experts in the field.
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If you don't mind me asking what do you find is the contribution to low test and no gains etc from clients in the UK? I believe i read somewhere that you stated you pretty much already knew since half your clients were from the UK?
 
jman12 said:
If you don't mind me asking what do you find is the contribution to low test and no gains etc from clients in the UK? I believe i read somewhere that you stated you pretty much already knew since half your clients were from the UK?
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Piss poor diets/lifestlyes/stress managing skills , bad genetics, all of them had compromised GI tracts, nutritional deficiency,
 
jman12 said:
are there any noticeable symptoms of compromised GI tracks?
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40% tested and verified do not have any GI related symptoms, but could range in fatigue, depression, anxiety, muscle pain and weakness. This is what makes it difficult to identify, but >90% of cases symptoms improve when rebalancing the GI tract. Stuff I have seen is amazing...
 
The Matrix said:
40% tested and verified do not have any GI related symptoms, but could range in fatigue, depression, anxiety, muscle pain and weakness. This is what makes it difficult to identify, but >90% of cases symptoms improve when rebalancing the GI tract. Stuff I have seen is amazing...
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sorry matrix i know we have been through this before in my last thread, but if i still can get stronger no problem rather then bigger, does it not mean that i am absorbing nutrients and macros correctly etc since you would need the combination of both to get stronger. Ever since i started going gym i have only been ill twice in 3 years, whereas before with my ****ty diet i was getting ill more "commonly". If i feel okay in terms of fatigue and can get stronger no problem just not bigger, all be it with relatively low test for my age 18.3nmol/L and the fact i supp with animal pack, probably the best multivitamin around which allows me to get ample nutrients (more then what i need), then would it not be safe to say that the approach DR Mouton would take is kind of irrelevant to my case?
 
jman12 said:
sorry matrix i know we have been through this before in my last thread, but if i still can get stronger no problem rather then bigger, does it not mean that i am absorbing nutrients and macros correctly etc since you would need the combination of both to get stronger. Ever since i started going gym i have only been ill twice in 3 years, whereas before with my ****ty diet i was getting ill more "commonly". If i feel okay in terms of fatigue and can get stronger no problem just not bigger, all be it with relatively low test for my age 18.3nmol/L and the fact i supp with animal pack, probably the best multivitamin around which allows me to get ample nutrients (more then what i need), then would it not be safe to say that the approach DR Mouton would take is kind of irrelevant to my case?
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Animal.pack.is worst.vitamin out there. Nutrients are.in form not.used.by.the body and over time can be deposited in your joints.causing.major issues. Again think you are doing a good think is a bad think. Proper evaliation of other factors need to be done to rule things out. As mentioned before 40% of.people who have gi issue and do.not have any symptoms.
 
Sup man...

I just posted something similar (although I don't feel or look like someone who is "sick" or "bony" as you stated in your earlier posts - when i tell DR.'s I have low T they laugh...because I don't "look it"). Anyway, if your at 617 and optimum is 800-1000 then that's not bad. They are many factors when having Testosterone levels checked (if its free or total when its taken, and its a hard hormone to test accurately).

I would focus on being more positive and changing your thought patterns. You've got a sh-- load of help from Doctors....and even though they haven't helped you in your mind, from a medical perspective you've been cleared. I would keep searching...but stay positive. Focus on the weights, eating healthy, take good vitamins (do studies first...read and research)...etc.
 
The Matrix said:
Animal.pack.is worst.vitamin out there. Nutrients are.in form not.used.by.the body and over time can be deposited in your joints.causing.major issues. Again think you are doing a good think is a bad think. Proper evaliation of other factors need to be done to rule things out. As mentioned before 40% of.people who have gi issue and do.not have any symptoms.
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wow nearly everything I have read leads to the conclusion that animal pak is one of the best multi around, what would you say is a high quality product to buy? orange triad?
 
I'm partial to source naturals though are also other better ones. The bodybuilding vitamins are not that great in my opinion.
 
Thing is my uncle is 17 stone and he keeps saying to me, you look fine, your filling out, says he was thinner than me when he was my age,... I asked how much he weigh, he sai 13 1/2 stone..... What a prick.

im 142ibs at just a lil over 5'10, burt I know im an ectomorph (not a true ecto though).

my wrists did measure as 6.5 now they are down tö 6.4, I think I am actually losing bone.

Ill be 24 in august...

what weight do you think I should be? Not training weight but rather where to be natty before lifting?

I used to be a natural 154ibs at 19 which was probs normal for my frame, but I havent developed properly.. Im ashamed of who I am and what ive become.

Dont give a **** what my family say, they are willing to turn around and tell me I look healthy when people in the street think im a junkie then they can get ****ed*
pure and simple, I just want these tests done now, nad hpefully it wo nt be something severe or a hoard of things that I need to keep under control.

I look like a wierdo mate, pure and simple, I get ****ing pissed tbh, because rather than moan about it I just want it sorted once and for all before it gets even worse..

50cent lost loads of weight for his new film.. Was down to 160 and he looked like a crackhead..... 160 used to be an ok weight for me, so how is **** like that sposed to make me feel?

people see a thin person and automatically assume they take drugs, fact of life.

a guy tried to tell me on here that 617 (probably lower now) is in the middle for my age... If you click the link to that site a few pages back you can see that 95% of people my age are 800 to 900.
 
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