NEED tips FOr Nutrition ANd SUpplements

jmh80 said:
The nitrotech bars are fine.

25 cents each is a pretty damn good deal, BTW.
If I buy bars, I go for below 75 cents per bar.
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Strange enough, this is how I buy my hookers.
 
If you are looking to gain weight - that's fine.
If looking to lose fat - have protein and some good fats only, no carbs.
 
I like to eat some oatmeal before bed. Like a cup. You can take a little protein with that too. Ideally casein, but whey will work.
 
surfnskate98 said:
Is it also ok if i have a big meal like 30 mins before i go to sleep. Ive heard from some people its ok and some people No.
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Eat, if you can't gain weight eat whenever you can, don't sweat all the details unless you start getting fat. It's very individual, some can eat and eat and barely put on a lb, while other hard gainers have to be very careful about timing or they just pack on fat. Just try to keep your cals from fairly good sources, and get 'em up to at least 3000. The bars are fine but don't rely on them, once your used to taking in higher cals start replacing bars/mrps etc with real food. Assess whether or not it's enough then add the mrps etc back in with the increased calories and repeat. You have to find what's going to pack about 1lb a week onto your frame. Tracking your cals and macros should be your biggest concern, keep learning along the way and when you need to adjust you'll have the knowledge to know how. :food:
 
Hey i found this gainer on ebay Im probally going to buy it but i want to check with you guys first on your opinion.

The link isnt working but its on ebay and the item# is 330018708638
 
Err... I posted this on another topic already, but I think that it will apply in here as well. This is what I eat when I'm on the build... I wrote it @ 172lbs. or so. So, it's based for someone around 175lbs. (170-180). Here it is:

Meal 1:

2 scoops of whey protein in 16oz. Of skim milk
3 eggs cooked
2 cups of oatmeal (cooked)


Meal 2:

1 South Beach Diet Meal Replacement Bar


Meal 3:

4oz. Chicken breast, or 4oz. Turkey breast
4 pieces of 100% whole wheat bread
1 cup of cooked brown rice


Meal 4:

1 large baked potato (plain)
¾ cup of fat-free cottage cheese


Meal 5 (Pre-workout):

2 scoops of whey protein in water (or meal replacement shake –more calories)


Meal 6:

8oz. Of Extra-lean ground beef
2 cups of cooked broccoli
2 large baked potatoes (plain)
4 pieces of white bread


Meal 7 (Before bed):

2 scoops of whey protein in water
1 cup of oatmeal (cooked)
1 banana


Now, you could eat exactly what I have posted up there. However, you won't need those levels to grow. That would be a little overkill. Ideally, you'd want to cut probably 1100-1200 calories off of that. If you decide to do that, just remember that it was set up pretty close to 50/30/20 carbs%/protein%/fat%. I don't know a lot about what good mass gainer formulas are out right now, I never take 'em. I'm a firm believer in shoveling whole food down the 'ol gullet.
 
CallmeClark said:
Err... I posted this on another topic already, but I think that it will apply in here as well. This is what I eat when I'm on the build... I wrote it @ 172lbs. or so. So, it's based for someone around 175lbs. (170-180). Here it is:

Meal 1:

2 scoops of whey protein in 16oz. Of skim milk
3 eggs cooked
2 cups of oatmeal (cooked)


Meal 2:

1 South Beach Diet Meal Replacement Bar


Meal 3:

4oz. Chicken breast, or 4oz. Turkey breast
4 pieces of 100% whole wheat bread
1 cup of cooked brown rice


Meal 4:

1 large baked potato (plain)
¾ cup of fat-free cottage cheese


Meal 5 (Pre-workout):

2 scoops of whey protein in water (or meal replacement shake –more calories)


Meal 6:

8oz. Of Extra-lean ground beef
2 cups of cooked broccoli
2 large baked potatoes (plain)
4 pieces of white bread


Meal 7 (Before bed):

2 scoops of whey protein in water
1 cup of oatmeal (cooked)
1 banana


Now, you could eat exactly what I have posted up there. However, you won't need those levels to grow. That would be a little overkill. Ideally, you'd want to cut probably 1100-1200 calories off of that. If you decide to do that, just remember that it was set up pretty close to 50/30/20 carbs%/protein%/fat%. I don't know a lot about what good mass gainer formulas are out right now, I never take 'em. I'm a firm believer in shoveling whole food down the 'ol gullet.
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This kid is ~135lb so your diet doesn't help much...What I would suggest is he does the following -
Bodyweight x1.5=Carbohydrates in grams
Bodyweight x1.25=Protein in grams
Bodyweight x0.5=Fat in grams
That would mean 202.5g C/168.75g P/67.5g F = 2092.5kcal

If we're keeping this simple I'd have his diet look like this-
Breakfast - 80g Oats/Rice/Pasta, 5 Whole Eggs
Mid-Morning - 50g Tuna
Lunch - 120g Oats/Rice/Pasta, 150g Chicken, 1 tbsp Flax Oil
Mid-Afternoon - 50g Tuna
Dinner - 80g Oats/Rice/Pasta, 75g Chicken
Mid-Evening - 50g Tuna
Supper - 40g Oats, 45g Casein, 1 tbsp Flax Oil

I'm not sure when this guy works out so I assume it's around lunch time, if he doesn't want to eat whole foods post workout he can replace the lunch meal with the following -
120g Oats, 45g Whey protein, 1 tbsp Flax Oil, 200-300ml milk.
 
Tuna, Tuna, Tuna everywhere, aaaaah! I eat about 1 can a week myself, canned chicked, chicken, steak, beef jerky etc etc there are other choices to put in place of the tuna (just in case he's not a tuna lover like yourself).
 
CallmeClark said:
Agreed, that's why I said to drop the calories ;). I didn't have time last night to do the math on it.
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Yeah I know, I just couldn't figure how to drop ~1000kcal from that diet and guessed he might not know either. :)

Basso said:
Tuna, Tuna, Tuna everywhere, aaaaah! I eat about 1 can a week myself, canned chicked, chicken, steak, beef jerky etc etc there are other choices to put in place of the tuna (just in case he's not a tuna lover like yourself).
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Who said I like tuna? "No Pain, No Gain" ;)
 
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